spirit of antichrist is in the world today

[djhwoodwerks]

There is no perfection with imperfect mortals.

Those men have you so deceived kjw47. You are correct, with imperfect humans, operating under human knowledge, there is no perfection, BUT, imperfect humans, operating under the influence of the Holy Spirit, as your "real teachers" claim they do, there is perfection.

You can sell out your integrity among your fellow deceived witnesses, to defend the 7 men who know nothing but the love of money, it doesn't go far here tho. You see, by defending those 7 men, you are claiming that God allows His faithful ones to live in darkness, until He sees fit to reveal the truth. You claim one must have accurate knowledge to attain everlasting life, what about the witnesses that died believing the errors they taught, how did they gain accurate knowledge?

 

[metis]

Then you must believe Catholicism is correct--THE bible proves the opposite.
Sheol=Hebrew=Hades=Greek=Hell=English--the grave.

When going from one language to another, sometimes things get lost in translation. My wife speaks Italian because she's from Italy, and some Italian words simply don't translate well at all into English.

Secondly, I never said "Catholicism is correct" since the chances of any denomination hitting a home run on every issue is somewhere between none and nil. However, it is the CC that emerged as the apostolic church even though the word "catholic" wasn't used at first. However, other churches much later split off for mainly political reasons but yet kept using the same selection process for their bishops that was the "mark" of the early church as it clearly indicates in Acts.

Jesus religion didn't die it came back strong here in these last days--The great apostasy( son of peredition) had to come first( 2Thess 2:3)

And historically that does appear to have happened as what are referred to as "heretical churches" in the first several centuries who were using different scriptures and not being able to trace themselves back to Jesus and the apostles. However, since they were not promised by Jesus that they would last, they eventually died off.

 

[kjw47]

You can't seem to grasp the FACT that your are claiming God ALLOWS His "only channel", your "real teachers" to teach errors, non-truths, and demand that all witnesses accept it, until God sees fit to reveal the truth. Is that God's will?

Does God actually want His chosen people to believe errors (which, according to your "real teachers" are from the devil), until He wants the truth known?

Every religion claiming to be Christian has taught error for 1750 years--they outright refuse to make correction. Their scholars know of many errors--they do 0--as the Pharisees in Jesus day did--yet they were Gods chosen teachers until they were cut off-Matt 7:22-23) that's what happens to all who refuse to make correction.

 

[kjw47]

Those men have you so deceived kjw47. You are correct, with imperfect humans, operating under human knowledge, there is no perfection, BUT, imperfect humans, operating under the influence of the Holy Spirit, as your "real teachers" claim they do, there is perfection.

You can sell out your integrity among your fellow deceived witnesses, to defend the 7 men who know nothing but the love of money, it doesn't go far here tho. You see, by defending those 7 men, you are claiming that God allows His faithful ones to live in darkness, until He sees fit to reveal the truth. You claim one must have accurate knowledge to attain everlasting life, what about the witnesses that died believing the errors they taught, how did they gain accurate knowledge?

The Israelite kings were anointed by God--They fell over and over.
All resurrected that Jesus approves will learn and apply all truth. It is at Har-mageddon when one must know truth. No one knew the hidden truths until God revealed them, many died prior to that. But God promises-Daniel 12:4--truth will become abundant here in these last days. It has--rejected by those living in the old darkness.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

Every religion claiming to be Christian has taught error for 1750 years--they outright refuse to make correction. Their scholars know of many errors--they do 0--as the Pharisees in Jesus day did--yet they were Gods chosen teachers until they were cut off-Matt 7:22-23) that's what happens to all who refuse to make correction.

Blah, blah, blah, you keep regurgitating the same sorry stuff! Just answer the question asked of you, can you do that without all the defending of your "real teachers" false teachings?

You can't seem to grasp the FACT that your are claiming God ALLOWS His "only channel", your "real teachers" to teach errors, non-truths, and demand that all witnesses accept it, until God sees fit to reveal the truth. Is that God's will?

Does God actually want His chosen people to believe errors (which, according to your "real teachers" are from the devil), until He wants the truth known?

Just answer the question kjw47, it's a YES or NO answer.

Does your god actually want, or allow his chosen people to believe errors and be in darkness until he sees fit to reveal the truth?

 

[kjw47]

When going from one language to another, sometimes things get lost in translation. My wife speaks Italian because she's from Italy, and some Italian words simply don't translate well at all into English.

Secondly, I never said "Catholicism is correct" since the chances of any denomination hitting a home run on every issue is somewhere between none and nil. However, it is the CC that emerged as the apostolic church even though the word "catholic" wasn't used at first. However, other churches much later split off for mainly political reasons but yet kept using the same selection process for their bishops that was the "mark" of the early church as it clearly indicates in Acts.

And historically that does appear to have happened as what are referred to as "heretical churches" in the first several centuries who were using different scriptures and not being able to trace themselves back to Jesus and the apostles. However, since they were not promised by Jesus that they would last, they eventually died off.

God assured all--Truth would become abundant, here in these last days--It has. Rejected by all who live in the old darkness. Daniel 12:4

Every trinity translation was done from Catholicism translating. All originals were gone by the time the protestants translated. Catholicism allowed no one but upper clergy to read the bible for over 1000 years--no one had a clue by then. Many translating errors by Catholicism to fit false council teachings--No trinity bible or religion EVER corrected them. All who listen to trinity translation put their eternal lives into Catholicism translating truth--not a wise path to choose.

 

[kjw47]

Blah, blah, blah, you keep regurgitating the same sorry stuff! Just answer the question asked of you, can you do that without all the defending of your "real teachers" false teachings?



Just answer the question kjw47, it's a YES or NO answer.

Does your god actually want, or allow his chosen people to believe errors and be in darkness until he sees fit to reveal the truth?

Yes it was Gods will, He wouldn't even let his own angels know the hidden truths-1Peter 1:12)
It kept satan and his angels in spiritual darkness so he couldn't twist all of it into oblivion. Like he tried through Catholicism translating.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

The Israelite kings were anointed by God--They fell over and over.

Israelite kings? You have "real TEACHERS", chosen by Jesus Himself, LED by the Holy Spirit, anointed of God, the only ones God is using on earth today to preach and teach the real GOSPEL and they can't get it right, they STILL make mistakes, using their own, rewritten, perfect translation of the Bible

 

[djhwoodwerks]

Yes it was Gods will, He wouldn't even let his own angels know the hidden truths-1Peter 1:12)
It kept satan and his angels in spiritual darkness so he couldn't twist all of it into oblivion. Like he tried through Catholicism translating.

Oh my! God, Who cannot lie, Who IS truth, Who cannot deceive, allows His chosen people, His true worshipers to be taught errors, to be in darkness, because He didn't want satan or his angels to know the truth? If God didn't reveal the truth and let errors be taught to His people so satan and his angels would be in "spiritual darkness", where did that leave His chosen people? IN SPIRITUAL DARKNESS ALSO!!

If satan was in "spiritual darkness" because God allowed His "real teachers" to teach errors to His chosen people, then God allowed His chosen people to be in "spiritual darkness" also. That's the, "Jehovah God" you serve?

I can see you take absolutely no thought into what you say before you type it!!

 

[metis]

All who listen to trinity translation put their eternal lives into Catholicism translating truth--not a wise path to choose.

You actually don't believe in the Bible you claim to believe in. John 3:16, for example, does not stipulate that one has to share your interpretation of there being or not being a trinitarian concept. Neither does Jesus' Parable of the Sheep & Goats that deals with salvation. Neither does the Sermon On the Mount. It simply is not scripturally covered one way or the other. The stipulations that your J.W. leaders have told you to accept are theirs, not anything that Jesus or the apostles taught.

Jesus taught having faith in God and living a moral life of compassion and justice (fairness), not having all the politically-correct nonsense that your leaders have taught you.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

The Israelite kings were anointed by God--They fell over and over.

Why do you even dare compare the ACTIONS of the Israelite kings, with the teachings of your "real teachers"?

Provide one VERSE, not your muddled opinion, that shows one Prophet, one Disciple, one Apostle taught something and then had to go back and change it, got new light, because they got it wrong? Just one verse!

If you told me that your "real teachers" FELL by going to a nightclub, or the race track, I could accept that, because everyone falls, but when you compare your "real teachers" teaching errors to people sinning, it just doesn't hold up!

 

[kjw47]

Israelite kings? You have "real TEACHERS", chosen by Jesus Himself, LED by the Holy Spirit, anointed of God, the only ones God is using on earth today to preach and teach the real GOSPEL and they can't get it right, they STILL make mistakes, using their own, rewritten, perfect translation of the Bible

explaining bible truth to you is like talking to a brick wall. That is too bad.

 

[kjw47]

Oh my! God, Who cannot lie, Who IS truth, Who cannot deceive, allows His chosen people, His true worshipers to be taught errors, to be in darkness, because He didn't want satan or his angels to know the truth? If God didn't reveal the truth and let errors be taught to His people so satan and his angels would be in "spiritual darkness", where did that leave His chosen people? IN SPIRITUAL DARKNESS ALSO!!

If satan was in "spiritual darkness" because God allowed His "real teachers" to teach errors to His chosen people, then God allowed His chosen people to be in "spiritual darkness" also. That's the, "Jehovah God" you serve?

I can see you take absolutely no thought into what you say before you type it!!

Until these truths were revealed here in these last days--all died and paid the wages of sin. Those who live until Har-mageddon must have truth( John 4:22-24)--God wouldn't hold it against those who weren't alive when these truths were revealed.
I think carefully--Its your darkness that prevents light from entering.
Why don't you explain to the world why God hid those truths and kept all in spiritual darkness?

 

[kjw47]

You actually don't believe in the Bible you claim to believe in. John 3:16, for example, does not stipulate that one has to share your interpretation of there being or not being a trinitarian concept. Neither does Jesus' Parable of the Sheep & Goats that deals with salvation. Neither does the Sermon On the Mount. It simply is not scripturally covered one way or the other. The stipulations that your J.W. leaders have told you to accept are theirs, not anything that Jesus or the apostles taught.

Jesus taught having faith in God and living a moral life of compassion and justice (fairness), not having all the politically-correct nonsense that your leaders have taught you.

You forgot the fact--Those serving a non existent trinity are breaking Gods #1 commandment daily--It makes them a worker of iniquity( Matt 7:22-23) and they will hear those words from Jesus as judgement.
One can do 99% of Gods will, yet if they partake off the table of demons it counts as 0 for them in whatever they think they do for God as Jesus pointed out at Matt 7:21-23) 1Cor 10:21)

 

[kjw47]

Why do you even dare compare the ACTIONS of the Israelite kings, with the teachings of your "real teachers"?

Provide one VERSE, not your muddled opinion, that shows one Prophet, one Disciple, one Apostle taught something and then had to go back and change it, got new light, because they got it wrong? Just one verse!

If you told me that your "real teachers" FELL by going to a nightclub, or the race track, I could accept that, because everyone falls, but when you compare your "real teachers" teaching errors to people sinning, it just doesn't hold up!

I explained the hidden truths to you. You cannot grasp 2+2

 

[djhwoodwerks]

Until these truths were revealed here in these last days--all died and paid the wages of sin.

Book and verse please.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

explaining bible truth to you is like talking to a brick wall. That is too bad.

You haven't presented any truth yet! You don't have "THE" truth, you have your "real teachers" opinion of the truth, which, you know, by experience, can change at any time!

I think carefully--

It doesn't matter if you're thinking "carefully", if what you're thinking is wrong, it doesn't make it right.

Why don't you explain to the world why God hid those truths and kept all in spiritual darkness?

Simple, my God would not allow His church to be in spiritual darkness, that would make Him evil.

Where's your evidence that your god wants you to be in spiritual darkness?

One can do 99% of Gods will, yet if they partake off the table of demons it counts as 0 for them

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All error and lies are of the Devil and are certainly a great reproach and dishonor to God. (John 8:44; Rom. 1:25) Consequently, Jehovah is against all such pious frauds that teach lies in His name and He will clean them out at Armageddon.

Even your organization eats off the table of demons, so where does that leave you?

You can't justify your "real teachers" errors kjw47, because your "real teachers" say that ALL ERROR is of the devil, they said it, so it has to be true! They didn't say, 'all error but ours is of the devil', they said, "ALL ERROR is of the devil".

 

[djhwoodwerks]

I explained the hidden truths to you. You cannot grasp 2+2

You explain your "real teachers" opinion of the truth, but they don't have the truth, they are "still roving about", so how can they have "THE" truth?

You don't spend much time on jw broadcasting, do you? I'm not a witness and I will almost bet I spend more time there than you do!

 

[metis]

You forgot the fact--Those serving a non existent trinity are breaking Gods #1 commandment daily

Then you have no clue what the Trinitarian concept really is about, and it is not that there are three deities. As for me, I don't have a belief one way or the other on this.

Again, what you are doing is ignoring what the scriptures you claim to believe in actually say, instead just parroting a blind belief of your JW teachers. The Trinitarian concept may well be wrong, but that has no bearing on the issue of salvation according to the Bible you claim you believe in.

Again, maybe reread John 3:16 and also the Sermon On the Mount, and maybe it's best to believe these rather than what your JW teachers are telling you to believe. The latter are teaching you to play the we v they game, which is self-serving for them as you send in your $.

 

[savagewind]

, which is self-serving for them as you send in your $.

I am going to guess that he doesn't send money.