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Is Islam peaceful?

Afnan

New Member
Hi I'm student from Thailand. Now I'm doing research. I would like to ask you some questions. Is Islam peaceful? Thx for you opinion
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
As a religion, probably not as peaceful as Buddhism, Taoism, Shinto, or many other religions, great and small.

Any religion that divides people into believers and non-believers, faithful and non-faithful, etc -- and Islam is one of the religions that does this -- has sown seeds of conflict.

Having said that, I doubt the religion would prevent a Muslim who wants to be peaceful from being peaceful.
 

David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
If the Muslim practicing Islam is peaceful, then yes, it is peaceful. Same way that Christianity or Judaism is peaceful if the Jew or Christian is peaceful. The religion itself is a tool that is supposed to help us in seeking God. If we use it as such, then peace should be the result. It is when less than honorable people use a religion to force an agenda that evil results.
 

danieldemol

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Hi I'm student from Thailand. Now I'm doing research. I would like to ask you some questions. Is Islam peaceful? Thx for you opinion
I believe Islam is peaceful, but not relevant to the needs of the modern age.
For example in pluralistic society forbidding muslim women to non-muslim men even if it is against the choice of the woman in question just seems strange
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Hi I'm student from Thailand. Now I'm doing research. I would like to ask you some questions. Is Islam peaceful? Thx for you opinion
No, Islaam is not peaceful. It does not even understand peace at all well, insisting as it does on encouraging sharp contrasts between Muslims and non-Muslims, "faithful" and "kuffar" and on the superiority of the believers over the unbelievers.

Muslims, of course, are very often peaceful, as one would expect.

People often improve on the doctrines that they nominally adhere to, without necessarily realizing that they are doing that.

That is very much to the benefit of Islaam's reputation.

Edit: oh, and welcome to RF!
 
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FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
As a religion, probably not as peaceful as Buddhism, Taoism, Shinto, or many other religions, great and small.

Any religion that divides people into believers and non-believers, faithful and non-faithful, etc -- and Islam is one of the religions that does this -- has sown seeds of conflict.

Having said that, I doubt the religion would prevent a Muslim who wants to be peaceful from being peaceful.

Does religion divide people to Americans, Russians, Koreans, Indians, Germans ...etc
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
No, Islaam is not peaceful. It does not even understand peace at all well, insisting as it does on encouraging sharp contrasts between Muslims and non-Muslims, "faithful" and "kuffar" and on the superiority of the believers over the unbelievers.

Muslims, of course, are very often peaceful, as one would expect.

People often improve on the doctrines that they nominally adhere to, without necessarily realizing that they are doing that.

That is very much to the benefit of Islaam's reputation.

Edit: oh, and welcome to RF!

The quran stated clearly that God rejects aggression from any side, but pointed out that
Muslims should fight aggressively if being attacked, so you're absolutely wrong.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Nationalism does that. Some -- but not all -- religions emphasize the divisions between those who are of the religion and those who are not of the religion. That provides fertile grounds for conflict, in my opinion.

People do make the division, nationalism is one.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
The quran stated clearly that God rejects aggression from any side, but pointed out that
Muslims should fight aggressively if being attacked, so you're absolutely wrong.
Thanks for illustrating my point.

A proper religious doctrine would have a functional understanding of the social psychology involved and know better than to encourage branding non-believers as "attackers".

Then again, Islaam can hardly claim to be a proper religion, for that reason among several others.
 
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FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Thanks for illustrating my point.

A proper religious doctrine would have a functional understanding of the social psychology and know better than to encourage branding non-believers as "attackers".

Then again, Islaam can hardly claim to be a proper religion, for that reason among several others.

The quran stated clearly that you have to have your own belief, but prevents aggression,
how that is problematic, do you want to enforce the others to be united in what you believe,
that's against freedom, religion and belief is one.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
The quran stated clearly that you have to have your own belief, but prevents aggression,

I have to ask what you mean by prevention here.

Are you claiming that the random, average doctrine is less likely to encourage military aggression than Islaam? It seems to me that history shows rather conclusively that such is not the case.

how that is problematic, do you want to enforce the others to be united in what you believe,

That is what Muhammad and most other Muslim leaders sought, even according to the Qur'an itself.

that's against freedom, religion and belief is one.
Yes, it is against freedom. Not sure what you meant to say at the trailing end here.
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
The quran stated clearly that you have to have your own belief, but prevents aggression,
how that is problematic, do you want to enforce the others to be united in what you believe,
that's against freedom, religion and belief is one.

The Quran contradicts itself frequently. For every peaceful verse you can find a violent one. The Quran gives Muslims 500 ways to either be violent or predict when Allah will be. For all of its focus on violence or threats of violence, it's hard to defend it as peaceful.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
I have to ask what you mean by prevention here.

Are you claiming that the random, average doctrine is less likely to encourage military aggression than Islaam? It seems to me that history shows rather conclusively that such is not the case.

The non believers were and still the ones fighting Muslims and using force to prevent the massage of Islam from spreading, God pointed out that religion should not be enforced
and rejects aggression from any side, the message is very clear.

That is what Muhammad and most other Muslim leaders sought, even according to the Qur'an itself.

They don't enforce religion, actually the message of the prophet to Christians still lives to our days,


Yes, it is against freedom. Not sure what you meant to say at the trailing end here.

I believe that people are free for what they want to believe, Chritians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists ...etc
 
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