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spirit of antichrist is in the world today

savagewind

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With the clouds, see Him.
The Bible was changed in places. That is a fact. Why is that someone could not have changed the pronoun it to him?

And, by the way, he is with the mist. You do know, (do you not?) that clouds are made of mist?
 

savagewind

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The healthy air as at the beginning is back. Jesus brought it back.

As the lady @Deeje says again and again and again and again you may choose to ignore it.
 

Rick B

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The Bible was changed in places. That is a fact. Why is that someone could not have changed the pronoun it to him?

And, by the way, he is with the mist. You do know, (do you not?) that clouds are made of mist?

Maybe it was actually "her" meaning Mary or Gaiah. Maybe it was changed from crowds to clouds. Maybe from one eye to every eye.
 

djhwoodwerks

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And, by the way, he is with the mist. You do know, (do you not?) that clouds are made of mist?

Eyes can be aware of the clouds in which he comes.

I think it might mean that every eye will see Christ's clouds.
Clouds are formed by water vapor. A cloud is also a mist.
See Genesis 2:6
And also Matthew 24:14

The healthy air as at the beginning is back. Jesus brought it back.

Psst, hey savage, your watchtower is showing! ;)
 

savagewind

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I am at a great advantage over you who believe the Bible tells of some certain situations that will come true.
I believe the Bible tells of things that are true. Right now, true. Real stuff! You should try it, I think.
 

kjw47

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What does this have to do with what I posted?


The best biblical sources are those that make serious attempts to translate directly from Hebrew and Koine Greek the closest words in English, in our case, and any translation "correcting" a specific theology is likely to be biased.

Personally, I heavily rely on the Revised Standard Version because it is a more direct translation than most, although it reads rather clumsy at times because of that reason. Over the last half-century, it is the version that was most used by theologians because of its unbiased approach, and you can access it on-line here: Bible: Revised Standard Version


Fact--Catholicism translated--kept in latin for about 1000 years after the councils were held. No one was allowed to read the bible except clergy all that time. ALL originals were gone by the time protesta
The governing body has to catch up for goodness sakes! There is God. There is people's opinion of God.

THAT IS TWO GODS!

God is a............trinity.

God is not a...........trinity.

Can you see that in both cases it is saying God is a?

Forget the a! OK? Now try, God is THE.


Your post makes 0 sense.
 

savagewind

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Your post makes 0 sense.
You are right. Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand. Daniel 12:10
 

savagewind

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I'll try again @kjw47
There is God. There is one who knows God.
There is each person's opinion of what and who God is.

So, for each person who believes that God is known to them, there is 1, The true God which no man can see and thus know and 2. the god they think that they can see*

*know.
 

kjw47

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Please just answer the question,

*** w79 6/15 pp. 22-23 par. 4 “The Dead in Christ Shall Rise First” ***
4 By his sacrificial death Jesus Christ bought back or redeemed all the human family who are dying “in Adam.” Hence, they all “belong to the Christ.” However, the resurrecting of even the first ones of the human dead must wait till after the “presence,” or parousia, of Jesus Christ begins. This official presence begins with his second coming. According to the “sign” that Jesus foretold and also according to certain Bible time measurements, his invisible “presence,” or parousia, began in autumn of 1914 C.E.—Matt. 24:3.

According to the highlighted parts of the quote, when did Jesus' PRESENCE begin?

--1914-- The firstfruits resurrected = The little flock( Luke 12:32)= the anointed, the bride of Christ= 144,000-Rev 14:3--all died after Jesus died. It began with the apostles.
 

kjw47

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Correction of the ERRORS your "real teachers" taught, right?

*** w50 11/15 p. 462 Fraudulent Religious Relics ***
All error and lies are of the Devil and are certainly a great reproach and dishonor to God. (John 8:44; Rom. 1:25) Consequently, Jehovah is against all such pious frauds that teach lies in His name and He will clean them out at Armageddon.

How do you get past this kjw47?



All errors are not of the devil. What year was that said?
 

savagewind

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Knowing
--1914-- The firstfruits resurrected = The little flock( Luke 12:32)= the anointed, the bride of Christ= 144,000-Rev 14:3--all died after Jesus died. It began with the apostles.
You have no proof of that. Jehovah is able to raise a person who died before Jesus to Heaven.

You say it is not possible for Jehovah to do that.
 

kjw47

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You polled EVERY scholar on earth what white means in the Bible to make that claim, right? Or is that just an assumption?




:shrug: Doesn't make any sense! Every eye will see His coming, but not Him? An eye can be aware of His coming without seeing Him?



Every eye will see him come at Har-mageddon when he returns to the earth.
 

kjw47

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Knowing

You have no proof of that. Jehovah is able to raise a person who died before Jesus to Heaven.

You say it is not possible for Jehovah to do that.


Stop twisting stuff. I never said Jehovah couldn't do it. I shared truth of what Gods written word teaches on that matter.
 

kjw47

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This is how your "real teachers" interpret Revelation kjw47! Did you, or any witness out there, know that the TWO witnesses in Rev 11 were appointed as your "faithful and discrete slave"?

*** w14 11/15 p. 30 Questions From Readers ***
Who are the two witnesses mentioned in Revelation chapter 11?

▪ Revelation 11:3 speaks of two witnesses who would prophesy for 1,260 days. The account then says that the wild beast would “conquer them and kill them.” But after “three and a half days,” these two witnesses would be brought back to life, much to the amazement of all onlookers.—Rev. 11:7, 11.
Who are these two witnesses? The details of the account help us to identify them. First, we are told that they “are symbolized by the two olive trees and the two lampstands.” (Rev. 11:4) This reminds us of the lampstand and two olive trees described in the prophecy of Zechariah. Those olive trees were said to picture “the two anointed ones,” that is, Governor Zerubbabel and High Priest Joshua, “standing alongside the Lord of the whole earth.” (Zech. 4:1-3, 14) Second, the two witnesses are described as performing signs similar to those performed by Moses and Elijah.—Compare Revelation 11:5, 6 with Numbers 16:1-7, 28-35 and 1 Kings 17:1; 18:41-45.
What is the common denominator that links these references? In each case, the account refers to God’s anointed ones who took the lead during a difficult time of testing. So in the fulfillment of Revelation chapter 11, the anointed brothers who took the lead at the time of the establishment of God’s Kingdom in heaven in 1914 preached “in sackcloth” for three and a half years.
At the end of their preaching in sackcloth, these anointed ones were symbolically killed when they were thrown into prison for a comparatively shorter period of time, a symbolic three and a half days. In the eyes of the enemies of God’s people, their work had been killed, causing those opponents much joy.—Rev. 11:8-10.
However, true to the words of the prophecy, at the end of the three and a half days, the two witnesses were brought back to life. Not only were these anointed ones released from prison but those who remained faithful received a special appointment from God through their Lord, Jesus Christ. In 1919 they were among those who were appointed to serve as a “faithful and discreet slave” to care for the spiritual needs of God’s people during the last days.—Matt. 24:45-47; Rev. 11:11, 12.


Yes they are the 2 witnesses. They changed many false teachings to truth, yet still only had error filled trinity translations to go by.
 

djhwoodwerks

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Please just answer the question,

*** w79 6/15 pp. 22-23 par. 4 “The Dead in Christ Shall Rise First” ***
4 By his sacrificial death Jesus Christ bought back or redeemed all the human family who are dying “in Adam.” Hence, they all “belong to the Christ.” However, the resurrecting of even the first ones of the human dead must wait till after the “presence,” or parousia, of Jesus Christ begins. This official presence begins with his second coming. According to the “sign” that Jesus foretold and also according to certain Bible time measurements, his invisible “presence,” or parousia, began in autumn of 1914 C.E.—Matt. 24:3.

According to the highlighted parts of the quote, when did Jesus' PRESENCE begin?

--1914-- The firstfruits resurrected = The little flock( Luke 12:32)= the anointed, the bride of Christ= 144,000-Rev 14:3--all died after Jesus died. It began with the apostles.

My, my, are you afraid to answer the question kjw47? Are you ashamed to admit you have believed a lie for so long?

According to the highlights in the quote, when did Jesus' presence begin?

If you don't want to give an honest, straight forward answer, just say so!
 

kjw47

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You are right. Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand. Daniel 12:10




And wicked to Gods view is what counts. Satan has 99% partaking off the table of demons( 1Cor 10:21) --God says cannot do that and partake off his table. Meaning no matter what you think you do or have love for God, it counts for 0 if you partake off the table of demons. Jesus will tell many the same-Matt 7:21-23-- He is Gods image afterall.
 

kjw47

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1950. What year did the Watchtower publish a retraction?


Maybe they didn't. Maybe errors are of the devil. None are immune to him. His #1 task--stop Jesus seed with everything he has. The important thing is to be like the Boreans and keep on making sure of all things, and when error is found--Those who seek and love truth make correction in front of all creation. Just like repentence. and Fact--God does not hold ones repented sins or errors against them( Acts 3:19) so neither does a domestic. They move forward.
 
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