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spirit of antichrist is in the world today

kjw47

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Really kjw47, that comment and question coming from you? Are you claiming that, because Christendom doesn't "make corrections" that they aren't led by the Holy Spirit? I believe that they, not all, ARE led by the Holy Spirit. I believe they LISTEN to the Holy Spirit and have not had to make CORRECTIONS.

Your "real teachers" claim to be led by the Holy Spirit, yet, they keep screwing it up, they have to keep "correcting" themselves, "is God's Holy Spirit that confused"?



That's not true! If "every utterance of God" is taught, then you are claiming God makes mistakes, because your "real teachers" make mistakes. Are you claiming God makes mistakes kjw47? If you believe He doesn't, then that comment is a lie!

I explained that reality to you already. Light does not enter darkness.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
Do you really believe that it is God's will for the people to trust that something which is not true is true?


Those that know God, knows that God doesn't change. He clearly inspired this-Luke 10:16-- it applys now as well.
Catholicism, translated, back in the dark ages. After they held councils as to what is truth( they did not know ) They let a pagan false god worshipping king run the councils-- guess who had final say--the king.
By the time protestants translated only Catholicism translating remained. All using altered and error filled-trinity translation are staking their eternal lives on Catholicism translating.
 

kjw47

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The Bible does not say what the white horse means. To be teaching your thoughts on what the white horse means is to go beyond the things that are written. 1 Corinthians 4:6 To go beyond what is written is arrogance against God's Word.
James 4:10. It is actually ok to say, "I do not know!".


In bible terms--White = righteous--all throughout. Rev 6 is the war in heaven--Michael rode that ride--he receives his crown(( only Jesus gets the crown) he is Gods appointed king.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
And exactly how can you be certain they or the HS is "confused" and you're not?

Interpretations can vary, and to declare one's own interpretation as being rock-solid while all other interpretations supposedly are "confused" is simply an arrogance we don't need any more of. Anyone who has ever spent any time in scriptural studies well knows that two intelligent people can read the same narrative but come out with differing interpretations.



Facts of Israelite God worship history and the teachings of Jesus prove it. There is no trinity god in existence--Those serving it are being duped into breaking Gods #1 commandment daily. By Satan and his teachers, transforming into an angel of light.( 2Cor 11:12-15)
 

djhwoodwerks

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I know exactly what it says. Jesus presence began in 1914--invisible--he did not physically come to the earth. At the 2nd ride of the white horse. Jesus comes leading Gods armies, Gods kingdom rule is with him.

Are you thick, can't you understand your "real teachers" English?

*** w79 6/15 p. 23 par. 4 “The Dead in Christ Shall Rise First” ***

This OFFICIAL PRESENCE begins with his second coming. According to the “sign” that Jesus foretold and also according to certain Bible time measurements, his invisible “presence,” or parousia, began in autumn of 1914 C.E.


"His official PRESENCE" BEGINS with His SECOND coming". His PRESENCE, not His physical coming, began in 1914 with His SECOND coming.

I explained that reality to you already. Light does not enter darkness.

What!!??? That's the reason your "real teachers" keep having to make corrections, because "light does not enter darkness"! The light of truth cannot enter the darkness of your "real teachers".

Just so you know kjw47, light expels darkness, darkness can not exist where there's light!!
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
In bible terms--White = righteous--all throughout. Rev 6 is the war in heaven--Michael rode that ride--he receives his crown(( only Jesus gets the crown) he is Gods appointed king.
It is righteous to want to do the will of God. To want to does not mean it is done. Goodness, gracious! If I learned one thing on the forum, that is it!
 

djhwoodwerks

Well-Known Member
In bible terms--White = righteous--all throughout. Rev 6 is the war in heaven--Michael rode that ride--he receives his crown(( only Jesus gets the crown) he is Gods appointed king.

That's funny, you believe satan is still in heaven! kjw47, can sin exist in the presence of God? Does God allow sin in His kingdom?
 

djhwoodwerks

Well-Known Member
I thought it was the judgement day of the Lord, not the final exam day of the Lord.

It's not judgment day nor final exam day, it will be school.

*** bh p. 215 par. 1 Judgment Day—What Is It? ***
Judgment Day will give billions of people their first opportunity to learn about God’s will and to conform to it. This means that a large-scale educational work will take place. Indeed, ‘the inhabitants of the land will learn about righteousness.’ (Isaiah 26:9) However, not all will be willing to conform to God’s will. Isaiah 26:10 says: “Even if the wicked is shown favor, he will not learn righteousness. Even in the land of uprightness he will act wickedly, and he will not see the majesty of Jehovah.” These wicked ones will be put to death permanently during Judgment Day.—Isaiah 65:20.

The witnesses "paradise" is no different than the world we live in now. There will still be righteous ones and wicked ones living side by side.
 

djhwoodwerks

Well-Known Member
Michael rode that ride--he receives his crown(( only Jesus gets the crown)

Wrong again kjw47, still believe the false teachings huh?

Revelation 6:2 (ESV Strong's) 2 And I looked, and behold, a white horse! And its rider had a bow, and a crown was given to him, and he came out conquering, and to conquer.

The first rider was GIVEN a crown, he is the FIRST beast in Revelation 13

Revelation 13:2 (ESV Strong's) And to it the dragon gave his power and his throne and great authority. (The crown that was given to the rider of the FIRST white horse.)

The first rider went out conquering and to conquer,

Revelation 13:7 (ESV Strong's) 7 Also it was allowed to make war on the saints and to conquer them.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Facts of Israelite God worship history and the teachings of Jesus prove it. There is no trinity god in existence--Those serving it are being duped into breaking Gods #1 commandment daily. By Satan and his teachers, transforming into an angel of light.( 2Cor 11:12-15)
Each denomination and church has its own claims about they being correct at the expense of others, and the JW's are no exception to that rule. It's a form of theological arrogance and ignorance that has caused so many problems over the centuries.
 

djhwoodwerks

Well-Known Member
Each denomination and church has its own claims about they being correct at the expense of others, and the JW's are no exception to that rule. It's a form of theological arrogance and ignorance that has caused so many problems over the centuries.

But, the witnesses teach, to belong to the "true religion" one must accept everything the "real teachers" say, without exception!

*** w86 4/1 p. 31 Questions From Readers ***
Approved association
with Jehovah’s Witnesses requires accepting the entire range of the true teachings of the Bible, including those Scriptural beliefs that are unique to Jehovah’s Witnesses.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
But, the witnesses teach, to belong to the "true religion" one must accept everything the "real teachers" say, without exception!

*** w86 4/1 p. 31 Questions From Readers ***
Approved association
with Jehovah’s Witnesses requires accepting the entire range of the true teachings of the Bible, including those Scriptural beliefs that are unique to Jehovah’s Witnesses.
It should say, including those Scriptural beliefs that are unique to Jehovah's Witnesses presently.

I heard of a woman who was disfellowshipped for saying that Jesus is not Michael.
 

djhwoodwerks

Well-Known Member
Jesus presence began in 1914--invisible--he did not physically come to the earth.

It doesn't matter if Jesus is PRESENT visibly or invisibly, He has to COME to be PRESENT, and Jesus never once eluded to Him coming invisibly FIRST to start His SECOND coming, that's just ridiculous!

"Jesus is PRESENT with mankind invisibly, but He HASN'T come yet', His invisible PRESENCE is the beginning of His second return'.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
Are you thick, can't you understand your "real teachers" English?

*** w79 6/15 p. 23 par. 4 “The Dead in Christ Shall Rise First” ***

This OFFICIAL PRESENCE begins with his second coming. According to the “sign” that Jesus foretold and also according to certain Bible time measurements, his invisible “presence,” or parousia, began in autumn of 1914 C.E.


"His official PRESENCE" BEGINS with His SECOND coming". His PRESENCE, not His physical coming, began in 1914 with His SECOND coming.



What!!??? That's the reason your "real teachers" keep having to make corrections, because "light does not enter darkness"! The light of truth cannot enter the darkness of your "real teachers".

Just so you know kjw47, light expels darkness, darkness can not exist where there's light!!


It began the second coming. he did not come back to the earth yet, He rides at Har-mageddon--The inhabitants of earth will not like it, 99% of them will be mislead to stand for the flag of their country against him. All can see the start of it-Rev 16
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
It is righteous to want to do the will of God. To want to does not mean it is done. Goodness, gracious! If I learned one thing on the forum, that is it!


The point was--White= righteous in the bible--the white horse= righteous war.
 
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