Is Heaven Eternal?

[Thief]

Thing about it, if your listening closer to time and what Einstein came up with, it's actually evidence for an eternal physical existence. What I'm trying to say is if you listen to the science of time, I'm hearing eternity really exists within. Of course that's a bit of extrapolation from current knowledge.

I like Albert
I have the layman's explanation in hardback

but time is not a force or substance
and the kingdom if of spirit

outside the laws of physical existence the measure has no influence

 

[Twilight Hue]

it didn't work out for God's Favored
He had a falling out

Therefore, there is no such thing as a secured position
Anyone can fail
even if you have both feet inside the Door
even if you are God's favored

Since the Christian description as well as many other versions of Heaven has a lot of allegory dealing with materials and substances that are not eternal, more descriptions are uses, such as, "The moth does not corrupt". Roads of gold as well which suggest many things had been constructed for its literal interpretation, making it far from being eternal as there was a suggested beginning, for which eternity doesn't apply.

 

[allfoak]

Pardon me Thief, but how could 'life after death' possibly make 'sense' to you? Do you know someone who died and is now alive again? Can you describe the process of going from life to death and back again? Let's see... you say 'if everyone moves on to the next life'.... could you possibly explain to me what 'moves on' means in this context? And where is this next life that I am completely unaware of?
Assuming life after death would appear to be a contradiction in terms to me.

My mother showed up at my front door the day after she died.
Life after death?

 

[idav]

outside the laws of physical existence the measure has no influence

When would it ever not be gods law?

 

[Paraprakrti]

There is no proof of a heaven.

There is a man-made concept of such a place supposedly existing.

I will address this thread as a hypothetical.

It must be tiring having to preface everything you say like this.

 

[Paraprakrti]

it didn't work out for God's Favored
He had a falling out

Therefore, there is no such thing as a secured position
Anyone can fail
even if you have both feet inside the Door
even if you are God's favored

I suppose the only hope would be that, having fallen once, a person learns not to do it again.

 

[corynski]

My mother showed up at my front door the day after she died.
And........? As an hallucination? As reality? Tell me more.....

 

[allfoak]

She was seen by my girlfriend.
Not a hallucination.

 

[Thief]

I suppose the only hope would be that, having fallen once, a person learns not to do it again.

yeah....and the Carpenter would forgive a trespass and then say.....Sin no more

 

[Thief]

When would it ever not be gods law?

I see a difference.....
the rules of reality
as compared to
the rules of spirit

 

[DavidFirth]

She was seen by my girlfriend.
Not a hallucination.

I have heard stories like this. I have no way to explain it.

 

[Thief]

She was seen by my girlfriend.
Not a hallucination.

after 76years of marriage my grandmother died
Granddad, did say he saw her, later on

she was standing the doorway of the living room watching, as he slept
He awoke, and there she was

dream?

maybe

 

[allfoak]

after 76years of marriage my grandmother died
Granddad, did say he saw her, later on

she was standing the doorway of the living room watching, as he slept
He awoke, and there she was

dream?

maybe

No dream

 

[Thief]

I have dreams of my loved ones.....now that they are gone

nowadays I am the patriarch of my small family

If it goes as I suspect......
I will be busy in the next life
for a very, very long time