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spirit of antichrist is in the world today

savagewind

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They fixed the errors of trinity translations is what they did. It took--translating to correct.
I do not think so. To translate is to turn a word into another language.
What they did was to change a word here and there to suit their own agenda.
 

savagewind

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I think that from the stand point of Jehovah God Almighty To Be Blessed soon can not be more than one thousand years. Can it, Jehovah's Witnesses?
 

savagewind

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Jehovah's Witness have an agenda. It is a fact that they do. To have an agenda is to contest God's will be done. That is Math.
 

Rick B

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Let's look at Matt 7:22-23 for a moment, shall we,

Matthew 7:22 (ESV Strong's) 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’

These men were prophesying, casting out demons, and doing many MIGHTY works in Jesus' name, they knew the power and authority that was in Jesus' name, but they didn't belong to Jesus, they had no relationship with Jesus, that's why He said, "I NEVER knew you".



These verses go along with my response above also,

Luke 23:42-43 (ESV Strong's) And he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.” 43 And he said to him, “Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in Paradise.

I don't need an English lesson on those verses either! My point is, that man didn't have a chance to get baptized, he didn't have the chance to go door to door, all he did was turn his heart to Jesus, that was it, and it saved him!

So true. Works are not required in order to be born-again, they are the result of having been born-again. Ephesians 2:5, Titus 3:5, James 2:18, the letter of Paul to the Romans.
 

kjw47

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What does Jehovah mean? What characteristics of these collection of letters would you think it is a name (American definition) rather than a descriptor of someone's character?



YHVH(Jehovah) means--- causes to become
 

kjw47

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Do you actually believe this?

Why would people believe god after being told that they have ignored him their whole life times?

What incentive do they have to believe if not by force?



Love is the incentive. Few on earth have the love Jesus spoke about. Even Hitler loved his family and friends---was not the Love Jesus taught. One must love their enemies the same.
 

kjw47

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The Holy Spirit I believe in can overcome the "imperfections in mortal man" and have the "truth" taught the FIRST time!
The witnesses have had their OWN bible since 1934, maybe earlier, why are they STILL making errors?
Lol, apparently more powerful than your god or your version of the holy spirit!
And your god can do nothing about it?



Early 50,s the first New world translation came out. God reveals truths through his faithful and discreet slave---at the proper time. That's exactly how it works.
 

kjw47

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You should really read Ezekiel again, this time without the blinders on! For one, nowhere does it say, "they will have to know I am Jehovah". God is saying, when I do these things, then they will realize Who I am.

Ezekiel 5:13 (ESV Strong's) 13 “Thus shall my anger spend itself, and I will vent my fury upon them and satisfy myself. And they shall know that I am the Lord..

Ezekiel 6:14 (ESV Strong's) 14 And I will stretch out my hand against them and make the land desolate and waste, in all their dwelling places, from the wilderness to Riblah. Then they will know that I am the Lord.”

God is telling what He's going to do, in His wrath, and you think it says, "Then they will know my name is Jehovah"?

God is telling of His character, Who He is, that has nothing to do with His personal name!


Trinity translations are altered--every scholar on earth knows it is fact. As well--Every spot in the OT where--GOD--LORD all capitols--YHVH( Jehovah) belongs.
 

kjw47

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No, you are trying to avoid the question again by blaming others for your "true teachers" failings.

You said, "only your true teachers have the truth given to them, no one else on earth gets the truth but them".
If they are getting the TRUTH, straight from the Holy Spirit, how are they messing it up?
Every word they teach they say they get direct from the Holy Spirit, but they still mess it up and have to correct it. So is it the Holy Spirit guiding them astray, or do they NOT have the truth? When they mess up, it's either they didn't have the truth, or the Holy Spirit is just giving them the wrong info.


Truth is revealed--- at the proper time--through the faithful and discreet slave--not a second before.
 

Unveiled Artist

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YHVH(Jehovah) means--- causes to become

I don't see the difference in god's characteristics and what is name means? That's like saying my name is carlita because my father's name is carl and I am his little 'ita so it describes my relationship with my father.

In god's case, he can't be described in a name because his characteristics are unknown. It's like using your descriptions and language on someone completely by definition unknown. I know you're making it personal but I know most other god-religions still have a personal relationship with god without insulting god by putting a name (Hebrew, Greek, English, or not) for us to identify it. It's a form of idolatry and one reason most likely Jews don't spell out god's full title and if one does, Muslim view, they always have a way to acknowledge the name beyond just written words and letters.
 

Unveiled Artist

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Love is the incentive. Few on earth have the love Jesus spoke about. Even Hitler loved his family and friends---was not the Love Jesus taught. One must love their enemies the same.

I have love without Christ. What incentive do I have to love christ that is unique from other religions even my own?
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
Let's look at Matt 7:22-23 for a moment, shall we,

Matthew 7:22 (ESV Strong's) 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’

These men were prophesying, casting out demons, and doing many MIGHTY works in Jesus' name, they knew the power and authority that was in Jesus' name, but they didn't belong to Jesus, they had no relationship with Jesus, that's why He said, "I NEVER knew you".



These verses go along with my response above also,

Luke 23:42-43 (ESV Strong's) And he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.” 43 And he said to him, “Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in Paradise.

I don't need an English lesson on those verses either! My point is, that man didn't have a chance to get baptized, he didn't have the chance to go door to door, all he did was turn his heart to Jesus, that was it, and it saved him!


But every one of them---believed.

This is what Jesus said---Truly I tell you today, you will be with me in paradise

trinity translations put the comma in the wrong spot--The bible is 100% clear--Jesus was in Hades( grave) for 3 days--he could not be in paradise on the first day.
All listening to the trinity religions are being mislead into the lake of fire.
 

Unveiled Artist

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The only king to lay his life down for your behalf.

Go deeper than that. I've gone through the passion of christ, lived it, and do not hate it as some people.

What incentive do I have that my religion and any other religion cannot provide beyond someone else's sacrifice on my behalf?

We all have some form of sacrifice in our religions. Go deeper.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
I do not think so. To translate is to turn a word into another language.
What they did was to change a word here and there to suit their own agenda.



That is exactly what Catholicism did to fit false council teachings. Every trinity translation is altered--100% fact of reality.
 

kjw47

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Go deeper than that. I've gone through the passion of christ, lived it, and do not hate it as some people.

What incentive do I have that my religion and any other religion cannot provide beyond sacrifice. We all have sacrifice in our religions. Go deeper.



The true living God-YHVH(Jehovah) and his son are only with one single religion-1Cor 1:10)
 

Rick B

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Your opinion only holds value to the image in the mirror, not to me. What will you do when Jesus says the same to you?

"when"? Don't you mean if? Unless,of course you claim to know word for word what Jesus will say to people in the future judgment. And if it didn't matter to you you wouldn't have bothered to respond with your apparently directly revealed prophetic warning. Which, as a JW, you can add that new revelation to your NWT version like they have changed Scripture before.
 
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