spirit of antichrist is in the world today

[kjw47]

According to your teachers, it's been "these last days" since 1914, why are your "true teachers" still making "errors"?

Apparently they are still not understood by your teachers, because they are STILL making corrections after all these years!

You should back up to 1Peter 1:1, he's not talking about "hidden truths".



Why did you use Matt 23:37-39 as reference to that statement? Those verses have nothing to do with the renting of the banner, being cut off or Jesus' death.



I try to understand your logic, but I can't. Please help me understand how God, would send Jesus and His disciples to preach the gospel, and then when the last Apostle died would keep the world in darkness, not allowing anyone to know the truth until 1914 or 1918 or 1919 which ever year your teachers have finally decided it was. If that makes sense to you, please explain it to me.

Truth was hidden to keep satan and his angels in spiritual darkness. He tried his best to obliterate truth through the religion that came out of Rome and translated false council teachings into translating. By him and his teachers transforming into angels of light( 2Cor 11:12-15) The protestants did not fix those errors. Instead the whole group became a house divided, they will not stand( Mark 3:24-26)--- They fail 100% this true mark set forth in Gods written word-1Cor 1:10-- unity of thought( all matters of truth) no division.33,000 religions claiming to be Christian are a divided house. Catholicism was the first trinity religion, either they are correct or none of them are. All who knows the bible knows 100% Catholicism is far removed from God and his son.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

He used it with his true followers-John 17:6,

Ok, so quote one verse where Jesus used it.

John 17, is a prayer Jesus prayed to God, His Father, why didn't He use that name one time in that prayer?

Do you really think God inspired his name nearly 6800 x in the OT because he doesn't want his name known and used?

Do you really think God meant His personal name and not His character? All thru the Bible people are telling of God's character. Jesus talked mostly about God's character, and NEVER mentioned His name.

Do you really think God inspired his name nearly 6800 x in the OT because he doesn't want his name known and used?

Do you really think that God wanted His name known and used, but never had His own Son use it or teach others to use it?

he 100% for sure used it.

That is just an assumption, no proof!

you really believe he doesn't want his name known and used--Jesus assures us he does--John 17:6,26

Where do you get Jesus assures us He wants the name USED?

 

[djhwoodwerks]

The giver is greater than the receiver--Jesus clearly tells all--The Father is greater than I. If Jesus were God it already would be his.

How deceived you are!
Jesus said that as a HUMAN.

33,000 religions claiming to be Christian are a divided house.

Again, you are deceived by your false teachers. Your "religion" started because one of your founders broke away so he could be the leader.

"After the death of Pastor Russell in 1916, the purpose of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society changed drastically. Joseph Rutherford, whom Pastor Russell had recently dismissed from his staff, seized legal control of the Watch Tower, dismissed the majority of the Board of Directors, and established dictatorial authority. The Watch Tower became the central head and authority over all congregations willing to yield their sovereignty. Basic doctrines of the “new society” seriously digressed from the teachings of Pastor Russell as the writings of Pastor Russell were discarded. The methods of conducting the evangelistic work were altered. The more sensational digressions, such as refusing blood transfusion and saluting the flag, caught the public’s eye. But many individuals and whole congregations refused to surrender their Christian liberty or accept the new teachings. As early as 1917, the exodus from the newly declared sovereign headquarters began. By 1918 one-fourth of the Bible Students left Judge Rutherford and remained true to the teachings of the late Pastor Russell. (SOURCE)

 

[Unveiled Artist]

God himself inspired his name in the OT in nearly 6800 places--you really believe he doesn't want his name known and used--Jesus assures us he does--John 17:6,26

I thought I AM was pretty appropriate for god's name. Every name of god/creator refers to an attribute. What is exactly a creator with whom is defined by a name?

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Do you really think God meant His personal name and not His character? All thru the Bible people are telling of God's character. Jesus talked mostly about God's character, and NEVER mentioned His name.

@kjw47 This sums up what I was about to say well. In addition, do you think any name can describe who god?

 

[Unveiled Artist]

The Jesus taught in trinity religions is not the real Jesus--they are deceivers. He is NOT with them. They do not listen to him, they do not teach all that he taught.

How does this negative talk compare to anything with what I said?

 

[kjw47]

Ok, so quote one verse where Jesus used it.

John 17, is a prayer Jesus prayed to God, His Father, why didn't He use that name one time in that prayer?



Do you really think God meant His personal name and not His character? All thru the Bible people are telling of God's character. Jesus talked mostly about God's character, and NEVER mentioned His name.



Do you really think that God wanted His name known and used, but never had His own Son use it or teach others to use it?



That is just an assumption, no proof!



Where do you get Jesus assures us He wants the name USED?

I showed you--Jesus did use it--John 17:6,26 and promised to keep making his name known.

 

[kjw47]

How deceived you are!
Jesus said that as a HUMAN.



Again, you are deceived by your false teachers. Your "religion" started because one of your founders broke away so he could be the leader.

"After the death of Pastor Russell in 1916, the purpose of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society changed drastically. Joseph Rutherford, whom Pastor Russell had recently dismissed from his staff, seized legal control of the Watch Tower, dismissed the majority of the Board of Directors, and established dictatorial authority. The Watch Tower became the central head and authority over all congregations willing to yield their sovereignty. Basic doctrines of the “new society” seriously digressed from the teachings of Pastor Russell as the writings of Pastor Russell were discarded. The methods of conducting the evangelistic work were altered. The more sensational digressions, such as refusing blood transfusion and saluting the flag, caught the public’s eye. But many individuals and whole congregations refused to surrender their Christian liberty or accept the new teachings. As early as 1917, the exodus from the newly declared sovereign headquarters began. By 1918 one-fourth of the Bible Students left Judge Rutherford and remained true to the teachings of the late Pastor Russell. (SOURCE)

No matter what any mortal on earth says---The Facts of the ot God and the teachings of Jesus prove 100% the JW teachers are correct. This world is about to find out the hard way.

 

[kjw47]

I thought I AM was pretty appropriate for god's name. Every name of god/creator refers to an attribute. What is exactly a creator with whom is defined by a name?

Again, your teachers are decievers. In the Hebrew language --I am that I am = error in translating--- I will be what I will be is correct--it is not Gods name--YHVH(Jehovah) is his name. Your scholars and teachers know these words are fact--they do 0 about it.

 

[kjw47]

@kjw47 This sums up what I was about to say well. In addition, do you think any name can describe who god?

Fact--YHVH(Jehovah) is Gods personal name--always a single being God.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Again, your teachers are decievers. In the Hebrew language --I am that I am = error in translating--- I will be what I will be is correct--it is not Gods name--YHVH(Jehovah) is his name. Your scholars and teachers know these words are fact--they do 0 about it.

"My teachers"???? I dont have teachers. Experience is my teacher. It makes sense why god would not have a name. It also makes sense why Jews dont say his name outside of worship.

I wouldnt view it negative nor wrong. Why would it be wrong to respect god by not idolizing him and describing him by name? Its literally taking the ego of "i know who god is" to "i know nothing. Only god knows."

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Fact--YHVH(Jehovah) is Gods personal name--always a single being God.

If I didnt read he bible nor heard of judaism, christianity, and islam, what would that name mean to me?

If I had an experience of god beyond words and then you give me a name, why would I accept a name for someone by definition is unknown?

 

[savagewind]

No matter what any mortal on earth says---The Facts of the ot God and the teachings of Jesus prove 100% the JW teachers are correct. This world is about to find out the hard way.

"About" means you know the hour. What do you say the penalty is for teaching something contrary to what Jesus Christ is teaching?

 

[djhwoodwerks]

I showed you--Jesus did use it--John 17:6,26 and promised to keep making his name known.

John 17:6 (ESV Strong's) 6 “I have manifested your name to the people whom you gave me out of the world. Yours they were, and you gave them to me, and they have kept your word.

I don't see Him using it in that verse.

John 17:26 (ESV Strong's) 26 I made known to them your name, and I will continue to make it known, that the love with which you have loved me may be in them, and I in them.”

I don't see Him using it in that verses either. So, will you provide the verse/s where Jesus did use it?

 

[Rick B]

"My teachers"???? I dont have teachers. Experience is my teacher. It makes sense why god would not have a name. It also makes sense why Jews dont say his name outside of worship.

I wouldnt view it negative nor wrong. Why would it be wrong to respect god by not idolizing him and describing him by name? Its literally taking the ego of "i know who god is" to "i know nothing. Only god knows."

If I didnt read he bible nor heard of judaism, christianity, and islam, what would that name mean to me?

If I had an experience of god beyond words and then you give me a name, why would I accept a name for someone by definition is unknown?

Your argument promotes a knowledge of God that does not rise above subjective experience. If God is incomprehensible then He must, in condescension, reveal Himself and His attributes to mankind, which He has done, in His written revelation i.e. words. It is through the Scriptures by the Holy Spirit that we come to know Him in truth.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Your argument promotes a knowledge of God that does not rise above subjective experience. If God is incomprehensible then He must, in condescension, reveal Himself and His attributes to mankind, which He has done, in His written revelation i.e. words. It is through the Scriptures by the Holy Spirit that we come to know Him in truth.

He reveals himself through you. You trust John's and Peter's experiences why not yours?

 

[djhwoodwerks]

The Facts of the ot God and the teachings of Jesus prove 100% the JW teachers are correct.

Only in the deceived mind of a witness.

Again, your teachers are decievers.

I would call a deceiving teacher as one who has to keep changing what they teach, they get it wrong so they have to change it up. A "real" teacher will be confident in what God tells them and won't have to keep changing it!

You're teachers try to teach something that isn't true, and when they get called out about it by "apostates" they have to change it!

 

[djhwoodwerks]

Fact--YHVH(Jehovah) is Gods personal name--always a single being God.

The rank and file witness can call God by His personal name, because He isn't your Father, because Jesus isn't your brother! You have respect for your fleshly father not to call him by his personal name, but think it's ok to disrespect God by calling Him by His personal name?

 

[Rick B]

He reveals himself through you. You trust John's and Peter's experiences why not yours?

John and Peter, as well as all the authors of Scripture, "wrote as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit". What they wrote in the canon of Scripture, and the canon is closed, was "breathed out by God". I, and everyone as well, can not make such a claim to inspiration.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

John and Peter, as well as all the authors of Scripture, "wrote as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit". What they wrote in the canon of Scripture, and the canon is closed, was "breathed out by God". I, and everyone as well, can not make such a claim to inspiration.

The holy spirit they received is different than what you received?

I thought there was only one spirit. That and 2000 ago isnt that long ago. Unless they arent human how are they different than you?