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Will there be Christians in ten thousand years?

David1967

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10000 years? Assuming we dont blow our fool selves up and technology continues advancing as it is. I can't imagine what humanity will even be or look like. There is an old episode of Star trek where Kirk and crew are on a planet in a confrontation with klingons. They are kept from fighting by a race of beings that had evolved past the point of even needing physical bodies. Unless they needed them to interact with lower forms of life. Maybe that will be us in 10000 years. I certainly cannot comprehend what religion may look like then.
 

Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
I think they will likely be gone, - or vastly different, - as they will not be able to skirt around science, at that point.

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Grandliseur

Well-Known Member
Assuming humanity is live and well will there be Christians still around ten thousand years from now? Why or why not?
There shall be none left except Christians at that time. Anyone who survives Armageddon shall be taught what is needed. All who survive satan's last release shall be Christians.

If you are a non-believer, then a famous scientist claims that humanity has only a 1000 years left on the planet; so, take your pick of the two.
 

Mister Silver

Faith's Nightmare
There shall be none left except Christians at that time. Anyone who survives Armageddon shall be taught what is needed. All who survive satan's last release shall be Christians.

If you are a non-believer, then a famous scientist claims that humanity has only a 1000 years left on the planet; so, take your pick of the two.

So basically "ten thousand more years of 'the end is nigh'" without it actually happening.
 

Valjean

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Premium Member
There shall be none left except Christians at that time. Anyone who survives Armageddon shall be taught what is needed. All who survive satan's last release shall be Christians.

If you are a non-believer, then a famous scientist claims that humanity has only a 1000 years left on the planet; so, take your pick of the two.
What are you basing this on, Christian religious folklore?
Surprising conclusion.:rolleyes:

Tell us more about this famous scientist.
I know one who predicts mankind's demise from environmental catastrophe in just nine years.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/02/10/looming-climate-catastrophe-extinction-in-nine-years/
 

Grandliseur

Well-Known Member
What are you basing this on, Christian religious folklore?
Surprising conclusion.:rolleyes:

Tell us more about this famous scientist.
I know one who predicts mankind's demise from environmental catastrophe in just nine years.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/02/10/looming-climate-catastrophe-extinction-in-nine-years/
Stephen Hawkins made two predictions, one for a hundred years, which he soon changed to a thousand years. Just google the two.
Here is one:
Humanity Only Has Around 1,000 Years Left on Earth, Stephen Hawking Predicts

If you are asking me about the Christian prediction, let me know, but I thought that one fairly simple to figure out with a little background in what is said out there.
 

Mister Silver

Faith's Nightmare
Funny! In your world view, isn't it 1000 years until earth becomes uninhabitable?! If that is what you prefer, that is up to you.

The OP made the reference to ten thousand years. You made a reference to one thousand years, but I am logically guessing that was a numerical mistake on you part, right?
 
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Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
There are a myriad factors affecting mankind's future, many of them random, unpredictable or not well understood.
On the other hand, there are several well documented trends and not unlikely scenarios that don't bode well for mankind's future on this planet.
 

Grandliseur

Well-Known Member
The OP made the reference to ten thousand years. You made a reference to one thousand years, but I am logically guessing that was a numerical mistake on you part, right?
I clearly mentioned that Christians would be around 10000 from now, only Christians.
However, when the extend of human life on the planet according to an atheist is 1000 years, not 10k, this must be included as is.
Thus, the choice is 10k with Cs, or 1k with a's.

Which is your choice? I know what will be, but this certainly is not accepted by a's.

If you cannot understand that 1k is all a's got, and then that is all they get, I would think you have a problem.
 
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jonathan180iq

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Assuming humanity is live and well will there be Christians still around ten thousand years from now? Why or why not?
No - For various reasons.

First, if Hinduism is the oldest currently practiced religion in the world, and it's only 5,000 years old, that should tell you something about the longevity of any belief system.


And secondly, modern Christianity is already a very weak version of it's former self, constantly assimilating into societies and cultures that its scriptures rail against. It's little more than a hollow shell of it's former self. It won't last much longer without resorting to fundamentalism in the name of a "revival".
 

Windwalker

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Premium Member
I clearly mentioned that Christians would be around 10000 from now, only Christians.
I'm curious what religion you believe Adam and Eve practiced before the Fall? Were they Christians? Were they Jews? Did they have a church building they went to, or had regular set prayer times? Did they read holy books and teach one another?

I'm trying to imagine what a day in the life in Paradise looked like, and if there was any religion at all at such a time. Now I'm trying to imagine that according to Christian mythology when the new heaven and new earth come after this one is burned away and "there shall be death no more", in effect taking us back to that Paradise that Adam and Eve lived in, why there would be the need for religion at all?

Maybe your answer should be "There will be no Christians, no Jews, no Hindus, no Muslims, no religion. All will be One." That would make more consistent sense with the stories of the Christian faith.
 

Grandliseur

Well-Known Member
I'm curious what religion you believe Adam and Eve practiced before the Fall? Were they Christians? Were they Jews? Did they have a church building they went to, or had regular set prayer times? Did they read holy books and teach one another?

I'm trying to imagine what a day in the life in Paradise looked like, and if there was any religion at all at such a time. Now I'm trying to imagine that according to Christian mythology when the new heaven and new earth come after this one is burned away and "there shall be death no more", in effect taking us back to that Paradise that Adam and Eve lived in, why there would be the need for religion at all?

Maybe your answer should be "There will be no Christians, no Jews, no Hindus, no Muslims, no religion. All will be One." That would make more consistent sense with the stories of the Christian faith.
As things stand now, only by means of the ransom will anyone survive whether they have to learn about Christ after their resurrection. Thus, in the end, after a 1000 years, the last test will be administered. Once satan and those following him have been destroyed, only true Christians will be left alive.

This means that in 10000 years, only Christians shall be alive.
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
As things stand now, only by means of the ransom will anyone survive whether they have to learn about Christ after their resurrection. Thus, in the end, after a 1000 years, the last test will be administered. Once satan and those following him have been destroyed, only true Christians will be left alive.

This means that in 10000 years, only Christians shall be alive.
So, we have to get a passing grade in order to be loved by God, is what you are saying. "Dad, do you love me? Not if you don't finish 5th grade with an A+, Junior." ;) You're just saying that only Christians get to live there because they read the class materials and got passing grades in order to win the right to live with God.

In either case, I'd say in this imagined future Paradise, you'd have no Christians or Christianity because the need for religion is now past. Right? Put another way, what religion does God practice?
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I don't think so. The Christian mythology is not IMO well suited to survive that long.
I'm having an interesting thought to this. If you look at the mythology it really is particular stories woven around archetypal forms. Those forms are in a sense always true for us as humans. So while a dying and rising saviour may not be believed as a literal fact, it's symbolic value towards self-forgiveness and self-love, and self-transcendence will always be valid. Can these things be taught rationally instead? To some extent yes, but symbolic forms are considerably more visceral and powerful towards transform than simply learning a lesson that only addresses mental thoughts.

I guess my feeling is that the essence of what is Christianity, the baby from the bathwater, will have found its way into our future, while rationally we will long ago no longer conflate symbolism with fact. Christianity will not have this mythic-literal center of gravity but be a different sort of Christianity, much more mature and wise about itself. It won't look so much like what you see today, but be much more refined, and possibly called something else. It would see itself as part of the human religious experience having long ago dropped exclusivist ideas about itself. It will be flying at an entirely different altitude, in other words.
 

Jeremiahcp

Well-Known Jerk
There shall be none left except Christians at that time. Anyone who survives Armageddon shall be taught what is needed. All who survive satan's last release shall be Christians.

If you are a non-believer, then a famous scientist claims that humanity has only a 1000 years left on the planet; so, take your pick of the two.

Take my pick of the two? Are you saying I get to decide which happens? Then I decide the path where God does not kill everyone simply because he doesn't like them.


Btw, Stephen Hawking is not a prophet, nor is he an environmental scientist.
 
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