DavidFirth
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JW are Christian's that don't believe in the trinity just like Muslims. My point was to show why muslims are just another Christian sect. What kind of non-Jesus religion waits for Jesus as a messiah.
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JW are Christian's that don't believe in the trinity just like Muslims. My point was to show why muslims are just another Christian sect. What kind of non-Jesus religion waits for Jesus as a messiah.
My main point is that Christian's can't even reconcile their own branches, so much that Muslims sound like a Christian sect.Never mind.
My main point is that Christian's can't even reconcile their own branches, so much that Muslims sound like a Christian sect.
Do you think JW are Christian or you draw the line at Muslims claim that Jesus didn't die?
What's that verse have to do with it?I don't know and it isn't up to me. Both you and them have a much higher authority to answer to.
1 John 4:3
and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already.
What's that verse have to do with it?
You quoted a different belief. Muslims believe Jesus is from god they believe he is the messiah. Trinarianism os a whole other debate. Bible never says Jesus is the God the father.Everything. Also, John 3:
16For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. 19This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
You quoted a different belief. Muslims believe Jesus is from god they believe he is the messiah. Trinarianism os a whole other debate. Bible never says Jesus is the God the father.
That doesn't change what I said, the Muslims wait for Jesus the messiah. So you disagree about what entails messiah. Both religions are waiting for the end of the world so Jesus can come with his sword to finish things. It's those similarities that concern me more than the differences.Muslims do not believe Jesus is the Son of God. They also do not believe He died for their sins. They also do not believe Jesus rose from the dead. If they believed these things they would not be Muslims, but Christians.
According to the verse those who do not believe are already condemned.
That doesn't change what I said, the Muslims wait for Jesus the messiah. So you disagree about what entails messiah. Both religions are waiting for the end of the world so Jesus can come with his sword to finish things. It's those similarities that concern me more than the differences.
Everything. Also, John 3:
16For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. 19This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
What should matter is love of God and love for the neighbor. All that other stuff should matter very little to salvation. Besides it's trinitarains committing idolatry according to most monotheistic takes.What concerns me is the word of God and the souls of these people. If you do not preach the Gospel to them, how then will they be saved from the wrath to come? Do they wait for the kingdom to come after they have condemned themselves? What good is that?
What should matter is love of God and love for the neighbor. All that other stuff should matter very little to salvation. Besides it's trinitarains committing idolatry according to most monotheistic takes.
Oh so I have to have faith first for it to make sense. Yeah gods love is everywhere not just books people deem their precious.Without faith it is impossible to please God. Without faith how will you believe the Gospel and be saved? Do you not understand that the Gospel is the result of God's great love?
Oh so I have to have faith first for it to make sense. Yeah gods love is everywhere not just books people deem their precious.
What should matter is love of God and love for the neighbor. All that other stuff should matter very little to salvation. Besides it's trinitarains committing idolatry according to most monotheistic takes.
Anyone and everyone.Christ Jesus said to love your neighbor as yourself.
The question is, Who is the neighbor ?
Where are you getting this information that Jesus is a shape shifter and disguises himself as to not be captured? That's not from Scripture so just wondering where you're getting these ideas from? Are they just your guesses?
Yes the Dajjal/Anti-Christ who establishes himself as the King of the World.I have question for you, you said in the book of Revelation that Jesus returns to kill all those does who not obey God's commands.
Do you have any idea who comes first before Jesus comes.
No because 100% God would not be ignorant of the hour or a mortal being. You would have me believe 66.6% of God was ignorant.If I may answer you, There is not 3 God's.
There is only 1 God, not 3 God's.
You left out the Holy Spirit who with Prophet Jesus pbuh doesn't know the hour. Only the Father is immortal and has perfect knowledge, He is ALL knowing. The Father does not pray to the HS or Prophet Jesus pbuh, but we see those two ONLY speak the words that God the Father puts in their mouths.Look Jesus = Son of God = The Father =
Almighty God = God is 1. and there is no other only 1. They are same God.
1 person, several roles or titles doesn't help you because as a Husband, Father and Friend I still speak for myself, retain my knowledge etc. The friend side of me doesn't need to contact the father side of me to find out the name of my wife, nor does the father side of me have to pray to the husband side of me and wait for an answer :/Look do you have a wife, do you have children, do you have friends,
Your husband to your wife.
Your a father to your children
Your a friend to your friends.
But you are only 1
That's right.your 1 husband to your wife
your 1 to your children
your 1 to your friends
Your still only 1. Not 3, only 1.
No because they are not equal, it's like saying:Like Jesus
Jesus is son of God
Jesus is Almighty God
Jesus is Holy Spirit
still only 1 God. Not 3, only 1.