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Is the Bible clear about who will inherit the Kingdom of God?

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Psalms 104:30 (ESV Strong's) 30 When you send forth your Spirit, they are created, and you renew the face of the ground.
h7307. רוּחַ rûaḥ; from 7306; wind; by resemblance breath, i.e. a sensible (or even violent) exhalation
g4151. πνεῦμα pneuma; from 4154; a current of air, i.e. breath
I agree, that's why I stated that I believe that "spirit" doesn't literally mean breath or life. They used that word to describe something we cannot see. The Spirit/spirit is a living thing that we cannot see.

Thank you for your reply, and agree God's spirit is a neuter ' thing ' that we cannot see.
Numbers 11:17 and Numbers 11:25 uses the neuter word "it" (thing) in describing God's spirit.
Also, the older KJV at Romans 8:16 and Romans 8:26 also use the neuter " itself" in connection to God's spirit.
Even in English we refer to a car or a ship as a 'she' even thought it remains a neuter "it".
Any comments about Job 27:3.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
I believe that gives us the King but who will the subjects be?

I find talk of King Jesus' subjects or citizens to be found at Psalms 72:8; Psalms 72:12-14.
Jesus will have subjects from 'sea to sea' which means to me from one end of the earth to the other end of earth.
Thus, those earthly subjects or citizens will be the humble meek who inherit the earth as Jesus' promised.
This takes place during Jesus' 1,000-year governmental rule over earth as found at 1 Corinthians 15:24-26.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
jeffrey dahmer made a confession for Jesus Christ.
does that wicked evil twisted guy go to heaven?
it's the most unscrupulous sense of justice ever.
The ex mafia guy at the local church goes to heaven.
but people who operate in their own integrity without Jesus go to hell.
This stuff needs to sound crazy to people. and I sure hope it does.

Please keep in mind as Psalms 92:7 says the wicked will be 'destroyed forever '. No eternal life for the wicked.
I find there is No future for those who commit the unforgivable sin of Matthew 12:32; Hebrews 6:4-6.
( Jesus, as judge, decides who is in that category - Isaiah 11:3-4; Revelation 19:14-16 )

Also, please keep in mind biblical hell is a temporary grave according to Revelation 1:18.
In Scripture we read Jesus operated in his own integrity yet righteous Jesus went to biblical hell.
The day Jesus died Jesus went to hell until his God resurrected Jesus out of biblical hell - Acts of the Apostles 2:27.
Since Jesus, and the old Hebrew Scriptures, teach only unconscious ' sleep ' in death, then biblical hell is simply the temporary grave for the sleeping dead - John 11:11-14; Ecclesiastes 9:5; Psalms 117:17; Psalms 146:4.
The sleeping dead who will have a resurrection as Acts of the Apostles 24:15 says (future tense) there 'will be ' a resurrection for the righteous and the unrighteous......... No resurrection for the destroyed forever wicked ones.
 

Magus

Active Member
The Kingdoms that King Cyrus and his successors inherited when they took over the Babylonian Empire, which included the whole of Syria Palestine, the Bible is Persian political history
in the guise of a Mythology and the New Testament plagiarises the OT, specially the Book of Isaiah and Daniel, to invent fictional nonsense just as 'Kingdom of God' , a phrase never used in
the Old Testament.

Israel today is not a Kingdom, but a country filled with Polish people pretending to be a the same people in the Old Testament.

The Bible wasn't written in the 21st century, therefore it's target audience isn't 21st century people, specially Americans, who they think it was specifically written for them.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
John 3:36-7.
The Father loves the Son and has placed all things in His hands Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on them

Coinciding this with the 1st Century, they was an Imperial Cult based on Julius Caesar & Augustus Caesar, known as 'Divus Iulius' (θεός) and 'Divus Filius' (υἱοῦ θεοῦ).

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God - Son of God ( What does the Greek say next to Caesar on the Left)

This cult was prominent in Ephesus, Corinth, Philippi and Galatia, were Flamen Paul was addressing Letters to.

Book of John begins to make sense, the name 'John' derives from Latin 'Ivvenis' mean young, The Gospel, the one of John, which contains the claim of the Son that all that is of the Father belongs to him only, originates from Octavianus Augustus, who, using brute force, asserted himself as son and sole heir of Caesar, whom he had elevated to godhead.

It is clear from the New Testament, it's true God is Julius Caesar , the Second coming of Cyrus , the Messiah ( Isaiah 45:1).

I believe I can supose you believe in pink elephants also because there are pictures of them.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Those of Revelation 20:6; 5:9-10; 2:10 I find are saved (delivered/rescued) because they are resurrected to heaven.
They are like the ones of Luke 22:28-30 who will reign with Jesus over Earth for a thousand years.

That does Not mean others aren't saved (delivered /rescued) because Jesus' ransom covers others who are dead.
As Romans 6:7,23 says that death is the price tag that sin pays, so their death frees or acquits their sins.
However, at Matthew 20:28 it says Jesus' ransom covers MANY and does Not say all. That is because those who commit the unforgivable sin are never forgiven according to Matthew 12:32; Hebrews 6:4-6.

As far as those of us still alive on Earth at the soon coming ' time of separation ' on Earth at Matthew 25:31-33,37 we can remain alive on Earth, and continue to live on Earth (saved/ delivered/ rescued) right through the coming great tribulation of Revelation 7:14 into calendar Day One of Jesus' coming 1,000-year governmental rule over Earth begins. So, we should all strive to be 'faithful in least' whether called to heaven or to live forever on Earth.

1 ] So, some are saved (delivered/rescued) via resurrection to heaven.
2 ] The majority of the dead are saved (delivered/rescued) via resurrection back to happy-and-healthy life on Earth during Jesus' millennium-long day of governing over Earth,
3 ] and the living on Earth can be saved (delivered /rescued) when Jesus takes the action of Isaiah 11:3-4; Revelation 19:14-16 ridding the Earth of wickedness as also mentioned at Psalms 92:7; Proverbs 2:21-22

If that were so then this verse would not be true:
Heb 9:27 And inasmuch as it is appointed unto men once to die, and after this cometh judgment;

This does not mean that a person is acquitted of sin but simply that the person is free from sin so you did get that concept right. When you look at the context you should be able to see that is what he is saying.

PS: the freedom from sin is actually a freedom from committing sin since there isn't any flesh to commit it but the person who dies with unrepentant sin can still have sinful thoughts.
 
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Muffled

Jesus in me
The Bible is quite clear on nearly all areas you ask about. But, much is not clearly understood by the majority.

The kingdom of heaven is not in heaven, but it will be on earth ruled by rulers from heaven - thus, its name:
Ps 72: 7 In his days shall the righteous flourish, and abundance of peace till the moon be no more. 8 And he shall have dominion from sea to sea, and from the river unto the ends of the earth. 9 The dwellers in the desert shall bow before him, and his enemies shall lick the dust. (Please read all of Psalm 72 yourself)
Dan 7:
. 13 I saw in the night visions, and behold, there came with the clouds of heaven one like a son of man, and he came up even to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. 14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all peoples, nations, and languages should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.
18 But the saints of the most high places shall receive the kingdom, and they shall possess the kingdom for ever, even to the ages of ages.​
Time of transition
After Armageddon, there will be a Great Crowd who survived this; there shall also begin resurrections of the righteous and the unrighteous, but not the wicked.
the unrighteous: consists of all those who did not get judged wicked but who were neither Jews, nor Christian and didn't know these or didn't know about the Bible God and Christ. This includes all from the time of Adam to the present.
As we are told, even now in the world, there may be those who are permitted, though not Christian, to be given this chance to serve God
the righteous: consists of those who were Jews of ancient Israel, perhaps even some Jews from the present if they are lucky, and Christians who do what they can to live in Christ holy lives.​

This happens during the 1000 years of rule by Christ. Once satan is let out of prison, everyone on earth gets tested and many fail. Those who fail will be destroyed forever together with satan and his angels.

All humans sin, even those who do their best to live holy lives in Christ. The difference between sin and being damned for sinning is 'the practice of deliberate serious sin.'

What is that? I believe It certainly doesn't come from PS 72.

I fail to see a justification for that statement.
 

Grandliseur

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What is that? I believe It certainly doesn't come from PS 72.

I fail to see a justification for that statement.
How can you fail to see this, from psalm 72, even 37, and Daniel chapter 7?

I believe I did quote enough material for this to be apparent. There are enough Bibles out there for you to verify that Ps. 72 contains what I said it did.
 

djhwoodwerks

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Also, the older KJV at Romans 8:16 and Romans 8:26 also use the neuter " itself" in connection to God's spirit.

I wonder why you would reference another version of the Bible to make a point, when they are viewed by witnesses as, "filled with Trinity errors"? Isn't that why your group re-wrote their own bible?

Even in English we refer to a car or a ship as a 'she' even thought it remains a neuter "it".

Ephesians 3:9 (ESV Strong's) 9 and to bring to light for everyone what is the plan of the mystery hidden for ages in God who created all things,

Colossians 1:16 (ESV Strong's) 16 For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him.

Since the Bible says that God created all "things", are we to consider ourselves neuter an "it' also?
 

Magus

Active Member
I believe I can supose you believe in pink elephants also because there are pictures of them.

I suppose you believe resurrecting zombie man walked on water saved your Sin cos your g-g-g-grandmother ate a fruit cos tempted by a snake. At least i can provide contemporary evidence dating to the 1st Century CE, all you can provide is Late-later 11th century CE translated unoriginal text.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
There are three types of people? Righteous, unrighteous AND wicked ones?

I find 'all types' come under 2 Peter 3:9 to 'repent' if you do not want to 'perish ' ( be destroyed ).
Most of mankind have lived and died before ever hearing about Jesus - John 3:13 - so they could very easily have practised unrighteousness without realizing it. Remember: the temporary Constitution of the Mosaic Law was only for one nation, and one nation only, which was the nation of ancient Israel. The other nations did Not have that Law.
By the coming ' time of separation ' on Earth as found at Matthew 25:31-33,37 those judged as haughty ' goats' are classed with wicked ones who have an adverse judgement as Psalms 92:7 says the wicked will be destroyed forever.
The humble ' sheep ' receive a favorable judgement and classed as being righteous or upright ones. Those figurative ' sheep ' can remain alive on Earth, and keep on living on Earth right into calendar Day One when Jesus' coming 1,000-year governmental rule over Earth begins. During Jesus' millennium-long day of governing over Earth even those classed as unrighteous ones will have a happy-and-healthy physical resurrection back to life on Earth with the opportunity to live forever on Earth as originally offered to Adam before his downfall. Thus, Jesus fullfills God's promise to father Abraham that ALL families of Earth will be blessed, and All nations of Earth will be blessed, Blessed with the benefit of healing for earth's nations as described at Revelation 22:2 when mankind will see the return of the Genesis ' tree of life ' on Earth for food and curing or healing of earth's nations.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
I wonder why you would reference another version of the Bible to make a point, when they are viewed by witnesses as, "filled with Trinity errors"? Isn't that why your group re-wrote their own bible?
Ephesians 3:9 (ESV Strong's) 9 and to bring to light for everyone what is the plan of the mystery hidden for ages in God who created all things,
Colossians 1:16 (ESV Strong's) 16 For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him.
Since the Bible says that God created all "things", are we to consider ourselves neuter an "it' also?

God and Jesus are always referred to in the male gender. We as either male or female gender and Not neuter "it".
Since many use the KJV translation is why I reference KJV at Numbers 11:17,25 (Neuter "it" for God's spirit )
That is in harmony with the ancient manuscripts. Modern KJV changed "it" to he to try to keep a trinity concept.
We can all, everyone, compare a Greek Interlinear and the Hebrew with English. No secret about the writings.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
............................................. but the person who dies with unrepentant sin can still have sinful thoughts.

When an unrighteous person who died with sinful thoughts is resurrected back to happy-and-healthy physical life on Earth, then that unrighteous person will have the opportunity at that time to still repent. No double jeopardy for previous sins as the dead are freed or acquitted from sin. The unrighteous are Not classed with the wicked.
'Death' stamps the price tag of sin as stamped 'Paid in Full ' according to Romans 6:23,7.
That is why Acts of the Apostles 24:15 uses the ' future tense ' that there ' is going to be ' a resurrection of both the righteous and unrighteous. No resurrection for the destroyed wicked as per Psalms 92:7 because the wicked are destroyed forever.
 

djhwoodwerks

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Most of mankind have lived and died before ever hearing about Jesus - John 3:13 - so they could very easily have practised unrighteousness without realizing it.

Why did you reference John 3:13 to your statement that, "most of mankind died before hearing about Jesus"? And, is that just your opinion that most people lived and died before hearing about Jesus? I am pretty sure you can go thru every century from the time of Christ until present, and there will have always been the Bible and writings about Jesus.
 

djhwoodwerks

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Remember: the temporary Constitution of the Mosaic Law was only for one nation, and one nation only, which was the nation of ancient Israel. The other nations did Not have that Law.

Romans 4:14-15 (ESV Strong's) For if it is the adherents of the law who are to be the heirs, faith is null and the promise is void. 15 For the law brings wrath, but where there is no law there is no transgression.

Romans 5:12-13 (ESV Strong's) 12 Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned— 13 for sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not counted where there is no law.

So it was only Israel that were sinners? If the other Nations didn't have the law, sin wasn't counted against them.
 

djhwoodwerks

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God and Jesus are always referred to in the male gender. We as either male or female gender and Not neuter "it".

The Bible says that God created all "things", which includes mankind, correct? If by my saying the Holy Spirit is a living "thing" makes it neuter, an "it", then by the same logic, mankind is neuter, and an "it".
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Why did you reference John 3:13 to your statement that, "most of mankind died before hearing about Jesus"? And, is that just your opinion that most people lived and died before hearing about Jesus? I am pretty sure you can go thru every century from the time of Christ until present, and there will have always been the Bible and writings about Jesus.

No one who died before Jesus was born could have heard about Jesus. Nor hear about Jesus being Messiah.
So, as John 3:13 says No one could have ascended because none of those dead people ever learned about Jesus.
No dead person could have put faith in Jesus without ever hearing or learning about Jesus.
Writings about Jesus were Not written prior to the first century ( C. E. common era )
There is No history account (gospel writings) about Jesus before Jesus was born, so everyone who lived before Jesus lived could Not have put faith in Jesus' teachings because his teachings were Not recorded before the first century.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
The Bible says that God created all "things", which includes mankind, correct? If by my saying the Holy Spirit is a living "thing" makes it neuter, an "it", then by the same logic, mankind is neuter, and an "it".

I find God used His holy spirit in creating mankind, etc. according to Psalms 104:30.
God did Not send forth a person, but He sent forth His spirit which is neuter according to Numbers 11:17,25.
A person could Not fit in Job's nostrils, as Job 27:4 says the spirit of God was in Job's nostrils.
God's powerful spirit, His dynamic energy, created Job as Job 33:4 says.
And as Psalms 143:10 says that ' God's spirit is good ' thus showing that God's spirit is something He possesses.
The Bible does Not refer to God or Jesus in the neuter but always in the masculine gender.
Invisible angels too are only referred to in the masculine gender.
On the other hand, visible human creation is either in the male or female gender and never referred to as ' "it".
However, God's spirit is neuter.
 

djhwoodwerks

Well-Known Member
No dead person could have put faith in Jesus without ever hearing or learning about Jesus.

What does Jesus have to do with the OT? Nothing!

Romans 4:3 (ESV Strong's) 3 For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness.”

Galatians 3:5-6 (ESV Strong's) 5 Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith— 6 just as Abraham “believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”?

Matthew 8:11 (ESV Strong's) 11 I tell you, many will come from east and west and recline at table with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven,
 
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