You mentioned an alternative way of looking at it. I don't see it a symbolic nor superman; so, I don't know another way to look at it really.
You had mentioned your experience of the resurrection through traditions in the Catholic Faith and I'm Good with that. My experience of the resurrection is not dependant on a church but through relationships with God and people.
Buddhism isn't a god-faith. Hinduism is. The Buddha rebuted Brahma when Brahma incarnated as Matta (sorry, this is a deja vu with Tony) to challenge The Buddha. He mentioned that all things are stable and eternal. The Buddha said it was not. The Buddha won. So it wasn't "taking anything" but rebutting Hindu doctrine.
Thank you. I do appreciate the differences between the two faiths as they stand in relationship to God. Buddha came from a Hindu background. It would be interesting to explore to what extent he agreed with the Faith of Hinduism from where he grew up.
Don't know about Christianity and Islam. Christianity and Judaism have ill feelings about each other though. I can respect Islam view on Christ. I can't with Christian's view on Muhammad.
The clearest example would probably be the Christians having a different understanding of the Hebrew Bible to the Jews, in particular how Jesus is viewed as a fulfilment of prophecy. The Jews will deny there is any verses that support Jesus being the Messiah whereas the Christians will see about two or three hundred verses that they believe relates specifically to Jesus as the Christ. I know you don't agree with it, but Chrisitanity would never have emerged as a religion if the apostles had not taught this. They taught it because it was the truth.
Like you, I am more comfortable with the view of Muslims towards Christians than the view of Christiinas towards Muslims.
Shrugs. I wouldn't
say that you have a relationship with books. Books are a pretty huge asset in your faith. I know the
@InvestigateTruth and
@Tony Bristow-Stagg said only Bahaullah could speak clearly about their faith and they didn't have the right words to speak of it. Is that your view?
A while ago you and
@Vinayaka told me you didn't like how much the Baha'is were quoting so I pretty much stopped. The point you made was that we really need to have a conversation and the quotes were getting in the way. I don't talk to my friends in Baha'i quotes so I've adapted.
Why would he need to if the Words are eternal throughout time?
Laws around crime and punishment, fasting and prayers are examples of transient teachings compared to the Eternal. The Jews believe their Covenat with God is Eternal and will not change. Thats one reason amongst many the Jews disagree with the Christians...and the Baha'is too.
edit-just caught something
The beautiful chariots of kings wear out--> Protectors of the suttas
This body too undergoes decay.--> Written suttas
But the Dhamma of the good does not decay (what the suttas are about):--> Teachings (suffering, eightfold path, etc)
So the good proclaim along with the good.” --> Good (of the Dhamma) always support each other.
Samyutta Nikaya (5131)
It's like Word versus words. Many christians (many christians) actually can't tell the difference.
Crude analogy/comparison.
Word/Dhamma
words/suttas
Great. That's what I was getting at as this principle applies to to a certain extent to the Abrahamic Faiths too. The words of Noah and Abraham have largely disappeared for example.
That isn't what the religious belief. I go off of the spiritual view. If I went off of literal, then I'd agree with you about the superman resurrection thing. Religious scholars do not speak for religious Jews. But then, instead of conversing about it, like with Hindu, I'd probably confer with a Jew first before saying anything is permanent and fact.
All the Abrahamic Faiths have very able and capable scholars that defend their positions very well. I was referring to Jewish Scholars and what they would say about the original tablets that Moses brought down from Mount Sinai. They don't have them.
Shrugs. Christ is the body of people. If I didn't put my trust in the people, I wouldn't put my trust in christ. Christianity is service to the people through the body of christ. Not worshiping christ as in the human being. The body comes together to build the body (different limbs scripture for example) and when they do, they make christ-the body-present and thereby, they are in union with god.
I'm kinda disheartened you feel that way. Many people are solo christians. If going by scripture, not something I agree with. Experiencing it as well? Naw.... never will see the solo christian view.
I wasn't referring to the Catholic Church but rather the history of the Jewish peopple as recorded in the OT. That being said, my experience as Christian from a Protestant background is different than yours as a Catholic.
Charmeleon of colors?
Haha. I just see it's logical. It would be the same if I'm talking about the engineering of a car even though I'm not an engineer nor do I drive cars. Or a Jewish scholar who is a Christian.
Just because it's spiritual doesn't mean it can't make sense to me.
If I didn't go through the Church and read the bible, I wouldn't be having this conversation. Belief in god doesn't negate my understanding of him. That, and god exist when you see it psychologically and culturally. You can make sense of it. When you expect me to see it supernaturally, can't do that.
I can see how you draw from your Catholic experience. A relationship with God is a living thing in my day to day life so although we are in different places I appreciate your experiences both religious and cultural that you bring to these discussions that is so enriching.