Jeremiahcp
Well-Known Jerk
I am not sure where you came up with that straw-man nonsense. If you want to talk to your imaginary friend, then by all means do so, if you want to talk to me then talk to me.
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Can Christianity move beyond its inherent homophobia?
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I am not sure where you came up with that straw-man nonsense. If you want to talk to your imaginary friend, then by all means do so, if you want to talk to me then talk to me.
Why are you telling/yelling me that?
Or you are just unable to back up your claim, hiding yourself behind a chapter in the Bible that clearly does not support your argument, given your inability to select a specific quote that my supports it. *shrugs*
I'll stick with you not being able to read. On ignore you go.
EverChanging
Well-Known Member
Sorry, that was intended for the OP person. I am not yelling, merely expressing surprise that this very basic knowledge is unknown.
Probably for the best. For some it's easier to hide from truth behind faith.
Perhaps you'd care to explain the point of your question instead of responding in such an uncouth fashion.
Jeremiahcp
Well-Known Jerk
Sorry, but I don't have a lot of patience for your silly games. Religion can very much be a negative influence and if you can't see how these harmful beliefs are proliferated to some extend by religion then you are just in denial.
Where do you live that people have been telling you you're evil your whole life? Or do you mean homophobic Christians in general?
Jeremiahcp
Well-Known Jerk
Here are some statistics to help out with the discussion:
Religious Landscape Study
Section 3: Religious Belief and Views of Homosexuality
I found this chart about attendance interesting:
Religious Landscape Study
It seems those that attend service regularly are more unfavorable towards homosexuality.
Also this statement supports the idea that accepted is growing:
There is a lot of useful information in those links, I am not claiming they prove anything just thought the information was relevant to the discussion.
Religious Landscape Study
Section 3: Religious Belief and Views of Homosexuality
I found this chart about attendance interesting:
Religious Landscape Study
It seems those that attend service regularly are more unfavorable towards homosexuality.
Also this statement supports the idea that accepted is growing:
There is a lot of useful information in those links, I am not claiming they prove anything just thought the information was relevant to the discussion.
Obviously. That's not in dispute. All I have said is that I do not agree that homophobia is inherent to Christianity because I have experienced far too much diversity within the religion to believe that (hell, your own references indicate that heterogeneity). Similarly, I am not the sort who is going to assume another person is homophobic when they say "I'm Christian." Are some Christians homophobic? Sure. Are some homophobic in part because of their religious tradition? Sure. That is not in dispute.
EverChanging
Well-Known Member
Indeed. Thus my post on how some forms of Anglicanism grapple with issues. It seems to have been missed or ignored by the original poster.
Jeremiahcp
Well-Known Jerk
I never once said all Christians are homophobic, that is a straw-man and not true. All you ever do is play games, and I am not interested. If you were not a mod I would have put you on ignore a long time ago.
Everybody can pick their favorite chapter and verse to prove whatever it is that they want to prove. Scriptures are like that. To me, as a non-Christian, what I find in the Bible that is most in alignment with my beliefs are the passages about not judging and focusing on my own shortcomings rather than what I perceive as other people's failings. And that is underlined by the parts where the Christ treats sinners with love and forgiveness not with judgement and rejection.
Er... I never said that you did. I'm not sure why you keep assuming that my comments about my experiences or my perspectives are somehow all about you.
Jeremiahcp
Well-Known Jerk
The Supreme Court has already ruled that same sex marriages are legal.
Jeremiahcp
Well-Known Jerk
Er... I never said that you did. I'm not sure why you keep assuming that my comments about my experiences or my perspectives are somehow all about you.
Blah blah blah.
Either that or we've been interpreting Scripture (or homosexuality) wrongly.
The directions a conversation takes are often influenced by the assumptions one brings to the table. If you have the capacity to drop this weird assumption train you've got going, we could probably have some productive conversations. You do post a lot of interesting things for consideration. Door is open, when you want to use it.
