I have another question for YOU to ignore

[savagewind]

It is the honest to goodness truth that a discipleship IS NOT REQUIRED for making someone else a disciple.

YOU say it is most important to make a disciple. I say it is most important to be a disciple. Any one who is a disciple of The Holy Spirit IS ALSO a disciple of The Christ, Jesus (not his real name) AND GOD Almighty.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

No, I'm not going to discuss it. You have your mind set, so, there's no discussing.

What you have done here is turn the discussion AWAY from whether Jesus really said "make" or "be". That is called deception.

I have done no such thing! I told you I wasn't discussing that any more because your mind is set and you won't hear anything else.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

YOU say it is most important to make a disciple. I say it is most important to be a disciple. Any one who is a disciple of The Holy Spirit IS ALSO a disciple of The Christ, Jesus (not his real name) AND GOD Almighty.

Please show one scripture where anyone is called a disciple of the Holy Spirit or God.

 

[savagewind]

Please show one scripture where anyone is called a disciple of the Holy Spirit or God.

You were the one who posted it. Didn't you refer to John 14:26? A disciple means taught one. Doesn't it?

 

[savagewind]

Someone thinks that to reduce salvation to semantics is damn funny.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

YOU say it is most important to make a disciple.

I didn't say it, Jesus did.

Matthew 28:19 (ESV Strong's) 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit

Matthew 28:19 (KJV) 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

 

[djhwoodwerks]

You were the one who posted it. Didn't you refer to John 14:26? A disciple means taught one. Doesn't it?

Yes, we are taught by the Holy Spirit, but we are not His disciples, we are Jesus' disciples.

 

[savagewind]

I didn't say it, Jesus did.

Matthew 28:19 (ESV Strong's) 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit

Matthew 28:19 (KJV) 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

I do not believe you are that dense. I do not know what to think. I hope you know there is a difference between being taught and teaching.

 

[savagewind]

Yes, we are taught by the Holy Spirit, but we are not His disciples, we are Jesus' disciples.

Except that disciple means to be taught.

 

[savagewind]

Please correct me if I am misunderstanding what to be a disciple means.

 

[savagewind]

When you @djhwoodwerks keep teaching someone and he keeps learning from you, he is YOUR disciple.

 

[savagewind]

Is there anyone who knows that teachers generally do not teach for the making of teachers?
Anyone who had gone to public school should know that teaching can not be taught.

 

[savagewind]

I think I will take this opportunity to say that @djhwoodwerks, you are my very, very favorite brick wall.
Solomon 8:10

 

[savagewind]

Does silence mean I am right? OK, so I was in the sun today and earned some glasses of wine. Please forgive me, I forget his name.....AH! Allah. Good. That is all.

 

[savagewind]

I actually DO do do realize that the silence might just mean the others have a reAL LIFE TO LIVE. i know THAT! I shall leave it just like that and I shall call it "modern ****ing art".

 

[djhwoodwerks]

Is there anyone who knows that teachers generally do not teach for the making of teachers?
Anyone who had gone to public school should know that teaching can not be taught.

The why do "TEACHERS" have to go to collage to be "TAUGHT" how to "TEACH"?

 

[savagewind]

The why do "TEACHERS" have to go to collage to be "TAUGHT" how to "TEACH"?

Haha. You haven't surprised me yet. I do not know (I shall give your question a C-), but if we might play semantics, (God only knows why J is big in my mind right now), but college teaches teaching and can't possibly teach HOW to teach. Did you even go to school?@djhwoodwerks. Teaching is all personality and heart. Are you attempting to tell us all that those can be taught?

 

[savagewind]

Can personality and heart be taught?

 

[djhwoodwerks]

When you @djhwoodwerks keep teaching someone and he keeps learning from you, he is YOUR disciple.

First of all, not everyone is to teach,

1 Corinthians 12:28-29 (ESV Strong's) 28 And God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, helping, administrating, and various kinds of tongues. 29 Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles?

Second, I believe all Christians make disciples of Jesus by,

Matthew 5:16 (ESV Strong's) 16 In the same way, let your light shine before others, so that they may see your good works and give glory to your Father who is in heaven.

Our actions speak louder than words ever can!

 

[djhwoodwerks]

Haha. You haven't surprised me yet. I do not know (I shall give your question a C-), but if we might play semantics, (God only knows why J is big in my mind right now), but college teaches teaching and can't possibly teach HOW to teach. Did you even go to school?@djhwoodwerks. Teaching is all personality and heart. Are you attempting to tell us all that those can be taught?

Haha, so anyone with a good personality can teach without going to collage to learn HOW to teach? Collage teaches one how and what to teach, being a GOOD and EFFECTIVE teacher depends on personality and heart for the job, they cannot be taught. Did YOU go to school?