God and the Law

[HonestJoe]

Is the God of the Bible a dictator, or rather a Benevolent Benefactor.

A benevolent dictator is still a dictator and will still tend to put themselves above the law. It doesn’t automatically make him bad but it’s undeniable that the God of the Bible declares himself unconditional ruler, imposes laws on his subjects yet actively breaks those rules himself. Pretty much like all of the temporal leaders the people who first wrote the Bible would have known of.

 

[Fool]

For single cell creatures it only takes one to divide into two. Put it takes two to create more or else all is lost, to be forgotten and no more remembered.

the universe was created from one thing

 

[Fool]

Rather wasn't it Satan who had depraved indifference because besides Job, Satan also challenges ALL of us at Job 2:4-5.
Touch our ' flesh ' ( loose our physical health ) and under such adverse conditions we would Not serve God.
So, the 'some' who charge God I find should be charging God's adversary Satan.
We can all make a reply to the one who taunts God which is Satan - Proverbs 27:11.

no, he gave satan permission to torment job. this God is not the God most high. The God most high would transcend this God vs that God in heaven, or the one holding court.

 

[Fool]

He "IS" the "LAW", in my view

If he is the Law then can he be above the law, or lawless?

 

[BSM1]

yes, by some he was charged with depraved indifference to job's torment.

so is the abraham god above the Law?

And you don't think Job was just the victim of a Celestial bar bet?

 

[BSM1]

(Ezek 36:17 KJV) Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their ..own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman.

(Ezek 36:18 KJV) Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it.

(Ezek 36:22 KJV) Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.

(Ezek 36:24 KJV) For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.

(Ezek 36:31 KJV) Then shall ye remember your own evil ways, and your doings that were not good, and shall loathe yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities and for your abominations.

(Ezek 36:32 KJV) Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord GOD, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel.

(Jer 24:9 KJV) And I will deliver them to be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth for their hurt, to be a reproach and a proverb, a taunt and a curse, in all places whither I shall drive them.

Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I the LORD have spoken it.

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Uhh...I was making a joke...

 

[Fool]

And you don't think Job was just the victim of a Celestial bar bet?

do unto others as you would have done unto you for with what you measure it will be meted to you.


Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin.

trouble in paradise

 

[BSM1]

do unto others as you would have done unto you for with what you measure it will be meted to you.


Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin.

trouble in paradise

???

 

[Fool]

???

as below; so above.

 

[BSM1]

as below; so above.

Could you elaborate?

 

[Fool]

Could you elaborate?

you are either subject to the law, or within the law but nothing is above the Law. delivering an innocent person to be judged, convicted, and executed is a perversion of justice, the Law.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

What about the Kingly Law, or the Royal Law, mentioned at James 2:8

What about Murphy's Law?

 

[URAVIP2ME]

A benevolent dictator is still a dictator and will still tend to put themselves above the law. It doesn’t automatically make him bad but it’s undeniable that the God of the Bible declares himself unconditional ruler, imposes laws on his subjects yet actively breaks those rules himself. Pretty much like all of the temporal leaders the people who first wrote the Bible would have known of.

However, I find the God of the Bible never puts Himself above the Law. I can't find an actively broken rule.
God could Not go back nor break His ' Do not eat from the forbidden tree or you will die ' Law.
Since the God of the Bible is also Creator (singular) then as being Creator then He would know what is best.
Like an inventor who gives instructions on the best way his invention works and provides an owner's manuel book.
As being our Creator, then God has given us the Bible as our owner's manuel book to consult at any time we wish.
The Golden Rule always works when applied in one's life style, and so does Jesus' new command of John 13:34-35 to have self-sacrificing love for others as Jesus has.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

What about Murphy's Law?

I heard it said that Murphy's Law of ' anything that can go wrong will go wrong' is more from Satan.
Satan because he is the temporary ' god ' of this world of badness according to 2 Corinthians 4:4.
There also seems to be the Law of that ' No good deed goes unpunished ' also fits Satan's description.
After all, according to Revelation 12:12, Satan brings ' woe ' to Earth for us.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

you are either subject to the law, or within the law but nothing is above the Law. delivering an innocent person to be judged, convicted, and executed is a perversion of justice, the Law.

I find it good to know that Jesus, who can read hearts, will Not deliver an innocent person to be adversely judged according to Isaiah 11:3-4; Revelation 19:14-16. No one innocent/righteous will be in harm's way.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

And you don't think Job was just the victim of a Celestial bar bet?

Besides Job, according to Job 2:4-5, we are also Satan's victims because by way of extension we are all challenged.
Touch our ' flesh ' (loose physical health) and we would Not serve God.
Both Job and Jesus under adverse conditions proved Satan a liar and so can we.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

no, he gave satan permission to torment job. this God is not the God most high. The God most high would transcend this God vs that God in heaven, or the one holding court.

Permission or allowed a temporary adverse condition for both Job and Jesus.
Angels viewed that challenge of Job 2:4-5 that under adverse conditions No one would serve God.
Only with us being being allowed to be born and the passing of time could settle that universal issue.
Both Job and Jesus proved Satan a liar and so can we.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

the universe was created from one thing

.... and I find that ' one thing ' to be God's ' power and strength ' (His dynamic energy) according to Isaiah 40:26

 

[BSM1]

Besides Job, according to Job 2:4-5, we are also Satan's victims because by way of extension we are all challenged.
Touch our ' flesh ' (loose physical health) and we would Not serve God.
Both Job and Jesus under adverse conditions proved Satan a liar and so can we.

But...but...God gave Satan permission to torture poor Job.

 

[Fool]

But...but...God gave Satan permission to torture poor Job.

surely God wasn't advocating for satan?