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For some reason I've never in my life seen anyone on these forums and in general even mention or ask about how in the Christian Bible the New Testament indirectly states that Satan is the ancient pagan Greek God Zeus.

"Revelation 2:12-13 In Pergamon, where Satan's Throne is"

"The Pergamon Altar is a massive structure originally built in the 2nd century BC in the Ancient Greek city of Pergamon. The temple was dedicated to the greek god Zeus. The Pergamon Altar was shipped out of the Ottoman Empire from the original excavation site by the German archeological team lead by Carl Humann, and reconstructed in the Pergamon Museum in Berlin in the 19th century, where it can be seen alongside other monumental structures such as the Ishtar Gate from Babylon." [4]

[4] Throne of Satan - Pergamon Altar - Former Things - Biblical Archaeology and The Bible


 

VioletVortex

Well-Known Member
Satan as depicted in the bible is a composite character. The original idea of Satan in the bible was essentially a dragon-like deity of Mesopotamian origin. Taken into account the partial (exaggerated in most historical works I might add) effect of the Indo-Europeans on both Europe and the Middle East, there is some chance that Satan is related to Zeus. Even if this is the case, the relation is still fairly distant.

In the Paganized versions of the bible, Satan is still based in the same deity, however he has taken on a new image, that of a Pagan horned god, with the angelic/dragon wings still present.
 

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Satan is everything but the true God or Lord. But it is interesting that they had a throne dedicated to Zeus in Pergamon, maybe that was the one he was talking about. Have any pictures of it? BTW an Altar is not a throne...
 

omega2xx

Well-Known Member
For some reason I've never in my life seen anyone on these forums and in general even mention or ask about how in the Christian Bible the New Testament indirectly states that Satan is the ancient pagan Greek God Zeus.

"Revelation 2:12-13 In Pergamon, where Satan's Throne is"

"The Pergamon Altar is a massive structure originally built in the 2nd century BC in the Ancient Greek city of Pergamon. The temple was dedicated to the greek god Zeus. The Pergamon Altar was shipped out of the Ottoman Empire from the original excavation site by the German archeological team lead by Carl Humann, and reconstructed in the Pergamon Museum in Berlin in the 19th century, where it can be seen alongside other monumental structures such as the Ishtar Gate from Babylon." [4]

[4] Throne of Satan - Pergamon Altar - Former Things - Biblical Archaeology and The Bible


Why do you reject what most people accept---Zeus is amyth.
 

Native

Free Natural Philosopher & Comparative Mythologist
For some reason I've never in my life seen anyone on these forums and in general even mention or ask about how in the Christian Bible the New Testament indirectly states that Satan is the ancient pagan Greek God Zeus.

"Revelation 2:12-13 In Pergamon, where Satan's Throne is"

"The Pergamon Altar is a massive structure originally built in the 2nd century BC in the Ancient Greek city of Pergamon. The temple was dedicated to the greek god Zeus. The Pergamon Altar was shipped out of the Ottoman Empire from the original excavation site by the German archeological team lead by Carl Humann, and reconstructed in the Pergamon Museum in Berlin in the 19th century, where it can be seen alongside other monumental structures such as the Ishtar Gate from Babylon." [4]

There must be a mix up of a celestial and geological meanings here. Zeus is the chief of the Greek Olympian (Heavenly) gods and goddesses, but "temples all over the geological places" in Greece have been dedicated to Zeus.

"Revelation 2:12-13 In Pergamon, where Satan's Throne is" - is just a way of saying that people in Pergamon are worshipping another deity than the biblical.

Besides all this, Satan/Saturnus/Seth isn´t the "evil devil", but just a fertility deity in the overall creation.
 

syo

Well-Known Member
Our symbols are different, so some xians might think that I dont practice Christianity
yes, but these christians are not suitable judges. there is only one judge and that is God. only God can tell who is a true christian.
 

SabahTheLoner

Master of the Art of Couch Potato Cuddles
For some reason I've never in my life seen anyone on these forums and in general even mention or ask about how in the Christian Bible the New Testament indirectly states that Satan is the ancient pagan Greek God Zeus.

"Revelation 2:12-13 In Pergamon, where Satan's Throne is"

"The Pergamon Altar is a massive structure originally built in the 2nd century BC in the Ancient Greek city of Pergamon. The temple was dedicated to the greek god Zeus. The Pergamon Altar was shipped out of the Ottoman Empire from the original excavation site by the German archeological team lead by Carl Humann, and reconstructed in the Pergamon Museum in Berlin in the 19th century, where it can be seen alongside other monumental structures such as the Ishtar Gate from Babylon." [4]

[4] Throne of Satan - Pergamon Altar - Former Things - Biblical Archaeology and The Bible


Many Christians think everything not like the Abrahamic God is Satan, which isn't exactly true.
 

Grandliseur

Well-Known Member
For some reason I've never in my life seen anyone on these forums and in general even mention or ask about how in the Christian Bible the New Testament indirectly states that Satan is the ancient pagan Greek God Zeus.

"Revelation 2:12-13 In Pergamon, where Satan's Throne is"

"The Pergamon Altar is a massive structure originally built in the 2nd century BC in the Ancient Greek city of Pergamon. The temple was dedicated to the greek god Zeus. The Pergamon Altar was shipped out of the Ottoman Empire from the original excavation site by the German archeological team lead by Carl Humann, and reconstructed in the Pergamon Museum in Berlin in the 19th century, where it can be seen alongside other monumental structures such as the Ishtar Gate from Babylon." [4]

[4] Throne of Satan - Pergamon Altar - Former Things - Biblical Archaeology and The Bible

Satan's throne today is no longer there, I am sure. Perhaps it might be at some other focal point, the Vatican, or perhaps some government site.
What you should realize is that Satan and some of his prince angels rule the world, each perhaps ruling over a distinct country and area.

When Daniel prayed about a matter, an angel was sent to him, but was intercepted by one of Satan's angels. He was then assisted by another mighty angel to get to Daniel:
Dan 10:13 But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days; but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me: and I remained there with the kings of Persia.​

We are also told that the gods, idols, the nations worship are fallen angels. If Zeus was consider the king of those idols, it would be proper to consider him as representing satan then. Since Zeus has faded into history, satan is most likely representing himself as something, someone else presently.
 

EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
I think christians name everything nonchristian as satanic.
Indeed you are correct;

The Adversary is a trans-cultural archetype which existed long before Christianity began in the form of Set, Samael, Ahriman, Loki, Pan and the feminine aspect being Lilith, to name but a few. Psychologically speaking, the Adversary is our Shadow Self, that which opposes and challenges you, when confronted by it, one either becomes consumed by it or one becomes stronger because of it, this be the "Old Enemy" as literary scholar Neil Forsyth coined!!

This archetype is the reflection of how we perceive ourselves in relation to what we call the "others". Satan is the negative definition of what we believe is human. He is a social and cultural phenomenon and as old as humanity itself. There has always and will always, be essentially two worldviews consisting of oppositions and they are "Us & Them".
 
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