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What is Wrong With Jews Who Repeatedly Post the Most Hateful Propaganda Towards Muslims?

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Having been on the web for years, it sickening to see so many articles, statements, made by Jews against Muslims being evil as such, and then wonder why there are backlashes in the world.

Do the Jews not recognize WW3 will happen, and it will be a religious war, that they as well as the other religious groups are going to instigate, through their hatred of each other?

Isn't it the more Godly thing to do, to try and find reason for unity, to try and resolve differences, to come to a greater understanding, not pick up on every bit of media driven propaganda to make the situation worse?

Now considering Jews are taught that they should be turning everyone to Godliness, so that everyone may know God in the time to come; how can creating animosity be in that right direction? :innocent:
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Can you show us an example of this?
Why would we need a specific example; there is at least an example regularly on this forum by some...

Don't want to specify individuals; it is more the whole concept, as also see this same them Vs us mentality within Christian rooms as well.

It is like seriously, doesn't anyone recognize the Messianic age is without warmongers, and trying to insight any form of hatred of another group leads to this.

Yet if you want an example look at the wording of the thread with a similar title; it is very carefully placed wording to cause friction, that would inevitably cause the Muslims to get angry.

For a race that is so highly intelligent, how anyone can not see the obvious results they're literally causing is beyond me. :innocent:
 

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
The AMIA bombing was an attack on the Asociación Mutual Israelita Argentina (AMIA; Argentine Israelite Mutual Association) building. It occurred in Buenos Aires on 18 July 1994, killing 85 people and injuring hundreds.[4] It was Argentina's deadliest bombing ever. Argentina is home to a Jewish community of 230,000,[5] the largest in Latin America and sixth in the world outside Israel (see Demographics of Argentina).[6]

Over the years, the case has been marked by incompetence and accusations of cover-ups. All suspects in the "local connection" (among them, many members of the Buenos Aires Provincial Police) were found to be "not guilty" in September 2004. In August 2005, federal judge Juan José Galeano, in charge of the case, was impeached and removed from his post on a charge of "serious" irregularities due to mishandling of the investigation.[7] In 2005, Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio, who would later become Pope Francis, was the first public personality to sign a petition for justice in the AMIA bombing case. He was one of the signatories on a document called “85 victims, 85 signatures” as part of the bombing’s 11th anniversary.[8]

On 25 October 2006, Argentine prosecutors Alberto Nisman and Marcelo Martínez Burgos formally accused the government of Iran of directing the bombing, and the Hezbollah militia of carrying it out.[9][10][11] According to the prosecution's claims in 2006, Argentina had been targeted by Iran after Buenos Aires' decision to suspend a nuclear technology transfer contract to Tehran.[12] This has been disputed because the contract was never terminated, and Iran and Argentina were negotiating on restoration of full cooperation on all agreements from early 1992 until 1994, when the bombing occurred.[13]


The 1982 Great Synagogue of Rome attack, which was carried out by armed Palestinian militants at the entrance to the Great Synagogue of Rome, took place on 9 October 1982 at 11:55 a.m. A 2-year-old toddler, Stefano Gaj Taché, was killed in the attack, while 37 civilians were injured.


1980 Antwerp summer camp attack
On 28 July 1980, a Syria-born Palestinian, identified as Said Al Nasr, used grenades to attack a group of 40 Jewish children waiting with their families for a bus to take them to summer camp. One boy was killed and 20 other people were wounded in the attack.


1985 Copenhagen bombings
On 22 July 1985, two bombs exploded in Copenhagen. One near the Great Synagogue and the other at the offices of Northwest Orient Airlines, an American corporation. One person was killed and 26 injured in the attacks.


On October 20, 1981, a truck bomb exploded outside a Portuguese Jewish synagogue in the centre of Antwerp, Belgium. Three people were killed and 106 wounded.[2]


The 1980 Paris synagogue bombing was a bombing directed against the synagogue of the French Israeli Liberal Union which was committed in Paris on 3 October 1980 on the evening of Shabbat and day of Jewish celebration of Sim'hat Torah so that a lot of faithful people went to the temple. It was the first deadly attack against Jewish people in France since the end of the Second World War.[1] There were 4 dead and 46 injured.

Hassan Diab, a Canadian of Lebanese origin is suspected.[2]


The Menarsha synagogue attack took place on August 5, 1949, in the Jewish quarter of Damascus, Syria.[1] The grenade attack claimed 12 lives.


The 1981 Vienna synagogue attack was a terror attack on the Stadttempel of Vienna, Austria carried out by Palestinian terrorists of the Abu Nidal Organization. [1][2]



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HonestJoe

Well-Known Member
Having been on the web for years, it sickening to see so many articles, statements, made by Jews against Muslims being evil as such, and then wonder why there are backlashes in the world.
Yes, isn't it ridiculous when people launch generic attacks against large and diverse groups with no good justification. :rolleyes:
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Great Hitler did the same thing to create hatred of the Jews, by overly emphasizing all the things they'd ever done...

Maybe we should just round the Muslims up in detention camps; rather than fix the religious differences, and create global peace diplomatically?

Everyone is aware bad things have happened, it doesn't mean they're going to get better by saying, "they did it!!"

It is like being in the school yard, and needing to be a teacher asking spoiled children to stop trying to kill each other, over stuff that happened years ago.

The idea that some people are not working toward peace, considering all the atrocities, is beyond me. :(
Yes, isn't it ridiculous when people launch generic attacks against large and diverse groups with no good justification. :rolleyes:
The evidence is on the forum, and web repeatedly, not listing every post that purposely creates more animosity from its careful wording. :innocent:
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It reminds me of Democrats v Republicans.
Each thinks they're the virtuous one, but
the other is evil. Examples prove all.
It could make a guy disrespect religion.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
It could make a guy disrespect religion.
Accept the literature available to us; yet am irreligious due to many of the religious peoples being so opposite to their religious moral specifications...

Think it is a good thing tho; maybe more people will turn to God, and leave religious organizations, due to many of them being so hate driven. o_O
 

omega2xx

Well-Known Member
Having been on the web for years, it sickening to see so many articles, statements, made by Jews against Muslims being evil as such, and then wonder why there are backlashes in the world.

Do the Jews not recognize WW3 will happen, and it will be a religious war, that they as well as the other religious groups are going to instigate, through their hatred of each other?

Isn't it the more Godly thing to do, to try and find reason for unity, to try and resolve differences, to come to a greater understanding, not pick up on every bit of media driven propaganda to make the situation worse?

Now considering Jews are taught that they should be turning everyone to Godliness, so that everyone may know God in the time to come; how can creating animosity be in that right direction? :innocent:

I don't know what you have specifically in mind, but it what they say is true, it is not only not hateful, it is necessary to tell of.

There is an old adage, it takes 2 to tango. Why do the Palestinians keep shelling Jerusalem? Do you not attribute the main problem to them? To those whose aim is to destroy the state of Israel so they will no longer be a nation.

One way to try and turn people to God is to expose those who do ungodly things. It seems to me, by attributing all of the blame on the Jews, you are prejudiced against the Jews. I hope Trump puts our embassy back in Jerusalem, where it belongs.
 

Darkstorn

This shows how unique i am.
Why would we need a specific example; there is at least an example regularly on this forum by some...

*Ahem* Sovietchild's "what's wrong with X?" type of threads. There were MANY of them. I mean, you could expect to find two of them per page on average or something. For some reason they seem to have disappeared.

But his "what's wrong with X" was ALWAYS written from a muslim viewpoint, and were targeting religions other than islam.

So. I'm not seeing your "repeatedly" or "regularly" and i'm also seeing much less of it than from the muslim viewpoint. This is just my assessment: But in my opinion the OP has no clue what he's talking about, and his knowledge is based on ignorance rather than known facts: There are probably on average more threads from muslims asking what's wrong with the other religions than the other way around. At least this is what i've seen, maybe you haven't seen it.

Maybe you've seen jews do this "regularly" but i haven't, and i assume not many others have either. That's why they're asking for specific examples: Because without specific examples i feel there are NO examples.
 

HonestJoe

Well-Known Member
The evidence is on the forum, and web repeatedly, not listing every post that purposely creates more animosity from its careful wording. :innocent:
You missed my point. I was accusing you of doing the same thing you're complaining about by generically attacking Jews. Most Jews won't do what you're saying and plenty of non-Jews will do so there's no justification for you specifically calling out Jews in general on it.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
It seems to me, by attributing all of the blame on the Jews, you are prejudiced against the Jews.
Absolutely nothing to do with the topic, the topic is not which side is right, and the fact you're even presenting that argument sickens me.

"Blessed are the peacemakers", and if we're siding with warmongers in someway, then clearly we don't comprehend this in all meanings.

Islam was a continuation of Hebraic customs, until people kept making animosity over the last thousand five hundred years; which has made it become worse, not better.

The point of the thread, is why add coal to a fire, where it will wipe out the whole of mankind?
I guess I just don't see any indication that the OP is at all accurate.
Because generally you seem to have done a vast amount of study into Islam to dismantle it, and since you seem opposed to it in its modern form as well...

Then maybe because you're also involved in the threads condemning Islam as a whole; you're not noticing the psychological affects that causes to a group of people, who already feel cornered by many?

Fair enough don't get me wrong, I'm not promoting some of the things Islam has done as not being evil; yet lets stop bullying just one of the religions, like if there was no Islam, we'd have world peace.
There are probably on average more threads from muslims asking what's wrong with the other religions than the other way around.
The Muslim threads are often challenging theological concepts, which is perfectly acceptable in the setting; it is a religious debate forum.

Pointing out that Muslims are savages, and not capable of rational behavior, actually causes them to become more challenging...

The other is what we see in the world, whilst everyone is telling someone they're not capable of being civilized, and are terrorist, this causes that reaction...

Some of the most violent serial killers, and extremist in history, is because people criticized them a lot.
I was accusing you of doing the same thing you're complaining about by generically attacking Jews.
Didn't say all Jews, didn't categorize a whole group of people, said those who choose that path, and can show Jewish websites, posts, and individuals who are responsible for causing more hatred.

The idea you think i missed the point, and don't actually recognize the extent this is taking place, horrifies me.
Just take my word as one who dislikes both religions, & has seen
more posts by far here than most .
Thank you for being in the middle as well, when we don't take sides, it is easy to see both sides contributing to the issues. :innocent:
 
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Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Having been on the web for years, it sickening to see so many articles, statements, made by Jews against Muslims being evil as such, and then wonder why there are backlashes in the world.

Do the Jews not recognize WW3 will happen, and it will be a religious war, that they as well as the other religious groups are going to instigate, through their hatred of each other?

Isn't it the more Godly thing to do, to try and find reason for unity, to try and resolve differences, to come to a greater understanding, not pick up on every bit of media driven propaganda to make the situation worse?

Now considering Jews are taught that they should be turning everyone to Godliness, so that everyone may know God in the time to come; how can creating animosity be in that right direction? :innocent:

I think there's a lot of hateful rhetoric coming from all sides and all over the world. Some might argue that it's merely reactive and retaliatory. They might say, "They hated us first, so now, we're just hating them back."

It's difficult, though, to make any kind of objective assessment as to who hated whom first, but each side has its unique point of view and likely believes their position to be right.

I think we sometimes find ourselves in a quandary of having to choose between the "Godly" thing to do and the "manly" thing to do.

Some might argue that it's "unmanly" or "cowardly" to run from a fight or to give in to one's enemies. There's the belief that if one doesn't respond in kind to hatred or violence, then that will be seen as weakness and could encourage even more hatred and violence.

It seems practical enough on its face, although it does seem to reduce some level of humanity to that of dogs. Dogs may instinctively attack if they sense fear or weakness, but humans can choose not to do that and restrain themselves. Nevertheless, many humans are reluctant to show fear or weakness to other humans - because we think they might be dogs who attack at the first sign of weakness.

As for the "Godly" thing, if God created love, then He also created hatred. If there are people or things that you love and cherish, your desire to protect that which you love will feed whatever hatred you have for anything that threatens it. If someone kills a loved one, then it's perfectly natural for humans to hate the person who killed someone they loved.

Where it gets complicated is when it becomes part of a larger conflict, whether it's the Crips and the Bloods, the Hatfields and the McCoys, or whatever. Heck, even sports rivalries can get violent among the fans. People have been attacked and beaten up just because they're fans of a rival team. How screwed up is that?
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Having been on the web for years, it sickening to see so many articles, statements, made by Jews against Muslims being evil as such, and then wonder why there are backlashes in the world.
Like a couple of other posters on this thread have said, I don't really see your point in the OP. What I believe you're likely conflating is arguing religion versus arguing Middle Eastern politics, and most of the Jewish pushback is in the latter category. I only very rarely here at RF see a Jew argue against Islam as a religion.

When it comes to arguing religion, I've seen far more Muslims telling Jews and Christians that their religions are largely bogus because theirs were supposedly "corrupted" by careless translations.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
How screwed up is that?
Thank you for a very observant post...

It is shocking how mad people get over their beliefs, and once it becomes family, how much they will not let it go, regardless of consequences.
I only very rarely here at RF see a Jew argue against Islam as a religion.
You're seeing your own standards on the forum; not noticed you incite hate, not encourage anything politically biased towards anti-Islam...

Some people seem to have an agenda to get their own back.
When it comes to arguing religion, I've seen far more Muslims telling Jews and Christians that their religions are largely bogus because theirs were supposedly "corrupted" by careless translations.
As a theological discussion, we should be able to challenge ideas, and between all the discussions, we should be able to find a middle ground, which is a good thing at promoting peace.

If though these discussions are stating, 'all' this religious group do some action that is negative, we can't say that; yet that line often gets crossed to make a point, and due to the negative issues against in Islam, everyone who already has a side is fine with it.

The thread has an agnostic, someone against both religions, and they see the agenda driven posts; it isn't that no one see's them, just whilst we're in the middle of it, we don't see all perspectives. :innocent:
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Not saying the opposing roles are balanced, but I've seen Jews post anti-Muslim screeds.

It is a good thing that you made the proviso. It is the least you could do, given the reality of things.

Myself, I don't like to encourage the perception of equivalencies when there is not even a resemblance of any.

I will not give examples. Just take my word as one who dislikes both religions, & has seen
more posts by far here than most .

With all due respect, I just do not trust your ability to discern false equivalencies, nor that of presenting balanced viewpoints.

Remembering the other view is all well and good. But you overdo it. You overdo it a lot. At that point it becomes simple, unproductive obfuscation, meaningfully or otherwise.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
<sigh>
Issues so often become about the poster.
Whether it's lashing out from anger, or an ad hominem diversion from the issue, we should avoid it.


It is a good thing that you made the proviso. It is the least you could do, given the reality of things.
That sounds like disdain couched in faint praise.
But of course, that couldn't be.
Myself, I don't like to encourage the perception of equivalencies when there is not even a resemblance of any.
You prefer more extreme perspectives, eschewing balance?
With all due respect.......
Uh oh....here comes some disrespect.
....I just do not trust your ability to discern false equivalencies, nor that of presenting balanced viewpoints.
Returning the favor....
I find you prone to seeing things in stark partisan black & white.
This can blind one to a larger picture.
Remembering the other view is all well and good. But you overdo it. You overdo it a lot. At that point it becomes simple, unproductive obfuscation, meaningfully or otherwise.
It makes you uncomfortable, eh.
Good!
If everyone is comfy, then it's naught but an echo chamber.
 
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