Will Trump Destroy the Republican Party?

[Revoltingest]

I think Trump has already destroyed the fallacy of Rep or Dem only. If truth be known many Trump voters were sick of being dictated to concerning who they had to vote for. I, for one, am not affiliated with any party and I am totally happy with the garment renting and teeth gnashing from both sides of the aisle.

But it does appear that our system has a tendency towards 2 big parties.
The Perots, Sanders & Trumps are transient phenemona.

 

[PositivePlatypus]

The Perots, Sanders & Trumps are transient phenemona.

That may be the case now, but I do not think it outside the realm of reason to assume there will be more candidates like them. Since they seemed to exhibit some form of success.

 

[Revoltingest]

That may be the case now, but I do not think it outside the realm of reason to assume there will be more candidates like them. Since they seemed to exhibit some form of success.

I agree that more are likely.
But a return to conventional 2 party politics appears to be the most common system state.

 

[PositivePlatypus]

I agree that more are likely.
But a return to conventional 2 party politics appears to be the most common system state.

I agree, I think even the outliers (Sanders, Trump, for example) will file into their respective parties since the party support is important to passing legislation.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Inertia is the true driving force in our society.

 

[Underhill]

The republican party has had a problem for some time now. The tea party and Trump are its symptoms. Eventually it is going to have to break into 2 parties Trump has probably accelerated the breakup.

I don't know. I think the right will view Trump as an aberration. A one time mistake they need to avoid in the future. The hardcore right will have been put in their place (you guys got what you wanted and see what happened...) and neocons will go back to running the show.

Beyond that I doubt it will hurt them much.

 

[Falvlun]

Nah. It's not like any other failures prevent them from backing the same failing horse.

 

[Underhill]

If anything I think this is a wake up call on the left. The right put Trump on the ticket, and we've had bad candidates before on both sides. But the left picking someone in as obviously compromised position as Clinton was, right or wrong as that witch hunt may have been, was a massive mistake.

 

[leibowde84]

Will Trump destroy the Republican Party? If he does, I think the destruction will most likely take the form of a split in the Party that leaves both parts too much in the minority to win most elections. What do you think? Will Trump destroy the Republican Party?

I think the Republican party will abandon Trump (turn on him) before it gets that far. They are realizing that he is making every single controversy way worse with every word he utters. He is just a horrible politician.

 

[leibowde84]

No, because after Trump has served his 8 years the choice is the same, Republican or Democrat.

There is no chance that Trump gets elected for a second term. His first term is going to be completely drowned out by this investigation which will certainly last for years.

 

[leibowde84]

It is going to be such a long eight years...

I think you mean 3 years. He is miserable. There is no way he's making it to the end of this term.

 

[leibowde84]

As to the political nature of the process, consider what the Republicans would be doing if President Hillary Clinton had done what Trump has done.

Probably just about the same thing.

 

[leibowde84]

I think Trump has already destroyed the fallacy of Rep or Dem only. If truth be known many Trump voters were sick of being dictated to concerning who they had to vote for. I, for one, am not affiliated with any party and I am totally happy with the garment renting and teeth gnashing from both sides of the aisle.

Trump certainly ran as a Republican on old-school conservative republican ideals. So, did you mean he wasn't from the establishment Republicans?

 

[PositivePlatypus]

If anything I think this is a wake up call on the left. The right put Trump on the ticket, and we've had bad candidates before on both sides. But the left picking someone in as obviously compromised position as Clinton was, right or wrong as that witch hunt may have been, was a massive mistake.

The Democrats really need to retool their approach. They need to look to the Sanders campaign and begin to ask themselves some hard questions. Sanders mobilized a demographic in a way that I do not think we have seen before in recent memory. Further, by most estimates, Sanders would have won the 2016 election. There needs to be that critical look at what happened and begin to question how connected they, as a party, are to their voters. Right now there is a clear division. An atmosphere of distrust and skepticism. 2018 will be a big year for the party because it will speak volumes how much they learned last year. If they take the progressive roots demonstrated by Sanders and turn it into a cohesive political platform, I think they have an honest shot to run the table back in 2018 and again in 2020. But that is a big if. We will have to see.

 

[Kemosloby]

There is no chance that Trump gets elected for a second term. His first term is going to be completely drowned out by this investigation which will certainly last for years.

I do like a thorough investigation. It can last 8 years for all I care.

 

[leibowde84]

I do like a thorough investigation. It can last 8 years for all I care.

There is no way he will get elected if he is still under investigation during the next election. He won't have gotten anything done. How could anyone in their right mind vote for him after he's gotten himself in this mess and made it worse every time he opens his mouth. He's just not cut out to be president. Not smart enough.

 

[bobhikes]

I don't know. I think the right will view Trump as an aberration. A one time mistake they need to avoid in the future. The hardcore right will have been put in their place (you guys got what you wanted and see what happened...) and neocons will go back to running the show.

Beyond that I doubt it will hurt them much.

I don't see it that way. The rift between the Conservative and Moderate republicans has been getting wider. The republicans in congress themselves are blocking each other. They are in control of both the House and Senate and have been unable to pass laws. I don't see them getting together anytime soon.

 

[Revoltingest]

There is no way he will get elected if he is still under investigation during the next election. He won't have gotten anything done. How could anyone in their right mind vote for him after he's gotten himself in this mess and made it worse every time he opens his mouth. He's just not cut out to be president. Not smart enough.

We once thought there was no way he'd win the first election.
A 2nd term looks unlikely, but not impossible.
It would depend upon 2 things....
1) How well the 1st one goes
2) Who the Dems run against him
Could be rising star...

 

[Underhill]

We once thought there was no way he'd win the first election.
A 2nd term looks unlikely, but not impossible.
It would depend upon 2 things....
1) How well the 1st one goes
2) Who the Dems run against him
Could be rising star...

I think Warren or Booker (although Booker is a bit young yet) could win. Cuomo or Gillibrand not so much. Biden or Sanders could win but they would both be approaching 80 so I find it hard to believe they will run but who knows?

 

[YmirGF]

I think you mean 3 years. He is miserable. There is no way he's making it to the end of this term.

Ah, sorry, I didn't realize you talked to him often and were a confident. My mistake.