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Producing life from non living matter

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
If life wasn't a product done by a creator, then what prevents us from creating it
the same way as it has been done by the unconscious nature.

This challenge was offered by God thousands years ago, as to create living creatures, can we?
 

danieldemol

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I wouldn't disbelieve in God if some scientist found a way to create life.
Jesus is said to have replaced a severed ear, yet a good doctor could do the same, just not by miracle.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
If life wasn't a product done by a creator, then what prevents us from creating it
the same way as it has been done by the unconscious nature.
We haven't figured out the formulae, and if we do we may not be able to reproduce it. Isn't that obvious?

This challenge was offered by God thousands years ago, as to create living creatures,
I must have missed that chapter and verse. Which is it?

Only time will tell.

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FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
I must have missed that chapter and verse. Which is it?

O people, an example is presented, so listen to it. Indeed, those you invoke besides Allah will never create [as much as] a fly, even if they gathered together for that purpose. And if the fly should steal away from them a [tiny] thing, they could not recover it from him. Weak are the pursuer and pursued.(22:73)
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
O people, an example is presented, so listen to it. Indeed, those you invoke besides Allah will never create [as much as] a fly, even if they gathered together for that purpose. And if the fly should steal away from them a [tiny] thing, they could not recover it from him. Weak are the pursuer and pursued.(22:73)
Not to make a debate out of this, but doesn't "And if the fly should steal away from them a [tiny] thing, they could not recover it from him." give lie to the claim that "those you invoke besides Allah will never create [as much as] a fly, even if they gathered together for that purpose"? The latter says no fly can be made, yet the former assumes that just such a fly was made.

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FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Not to make a debate out of this, but doesn't "And if the fly should steal away from them a [tiny] thing, they could not recover it from him." give lie to the claim that "those you invoke besides Allah will never create [as much as] a fly, even if they gathered together for that purpose"? The latter says no fly can be made, yet the former assumes that just such a fly was made.

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The former is about the actual fly which is God's creation, the fly is small in size and the things
that it gets is so tiny that we have no power to get it back from the weak fly.
 

Jedster

Well-Known Member
Careful what you wish for. Other challenges like this have been undertaken and achieved.

Indeed some people believe that Golem(Jewish folklore) can be made of clay.
In my youth I tried it with some of my friends, we surprisingly failed but got freaked out for a while.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Not to make a debate out of this, but doesn't "And if the fly should steal away from them a [tiny] thing, they could not recover it from him." give lie to the claim that "those you invoke besides Allah will never create [as much as] a fly, even if they gathered together for that purpose"? The latter says no fly can be made, yet the former assumes that just such a fly was made.

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It's really amazing that it says that the fly carry a tiny thing, as we know today that the fly carries tiny things with it legs.
 

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
If life wasn't a product done by a creator, then what prevents us from creating it
the same way as it has been done by the unconscious nature.

This challenge was offered by God thousands years ago, as to create living creatures, can we?

Technological impairment. We haven't got to the point technologically where we can produce life from synthetic elements. Yet.

That said, while we can't create entirely new lifeforms from synthetic materials, we can create limbs for people who've lost parts or all of theirs. Why can't your god do that?
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Technological impairment. We haven't got to the point technologically where we can produce life from synthetic elements. Yet.

That said, while we can't create entirely new lifeforms from synthetic materials, we can create limbs for people who've lost parts or all of theirs. Why can't your god do that?

That's why God gave us minds, it's like saying why we need to work and feed ourselves,
why not God feeds us.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
If life wasn't a product done by a creator, then what prevents us from creating it the same way as it has been done by the unconscious nature.

The same thing that kept airplanes and radios away from physical existence for so long: we did not know how to build them yet.

This challenge was offered by God thousands years ago, as to create living creatures, can we?
I'm pretty certain that the challenge, such as it is, comes from theists and not from any god.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
The same thing that kept airplanes and radios away from physical existence for so long: we did not know how to build them yet.

While we have knowledge and minds and still we can't create a living creature, but the unconscious nature did it.

I'm pretty certain that the challenge, such as it is, comes from theists and not from any god.

What makes you that certain and sure?
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
So in defence of your Kent Hovind challenge, you deploy this cop-out.

I didn't make the challenge, God made it knowing that we'll never do it.
Don't you see how silly it's when believing that the unconscious nature did it while we claim
that we don't have the knowledge yet to do it?
 
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