Is There Anyway To Prevent WW3?

[wizanda]

According to Biblical prophecy, all nations are to come against Jerusalem, and then God steps in to save those who are righteous; why do we need to have a World War, and everyone removed before people will accept who the Messiah is?

Surely this isn't something most people want, as most people are not invited to the Messianic age; therefore they will be removed from reality, according to most eschatology globally (Zoroastrianism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, Christianity, Islam, American Indian, Taoism, etc).

Can't we work to fix the things, why do people need to argue rather than look for solutions; realize some people think it is all fantasy, especially some of the people within the religions themselves.... Yet too much of the prophecy has already happened to the letter.

Are true prophecies inevitable or is it possible to turn it all around, and God to change his mind; if we all recognized the error of our ways like Nineveh?

Is there anyway within prophecy for the Messiah to reverse it or does it have to be a final war, and God destroying all those who don't accept, before we can progress?

If you knew you were personally responsible because of your beliefs, would you change to avoid world wide destruction?

 

[Eliab ben Benjamin]

I wish there were a way to prevent or reduce it.

When it is over we will have peace and well being, so how can we bring it about ?

Well a world government perhaps granting each family, shelter, food, education, occupation, and harmonious community ..

 

[Nietzsche]

According to Biblical prophecy, all nations are to come against Jerusalem, and then God steps in to save those who are righteous; why do we need to have a World War, and everyone removed before people will accept who the Messiah is?

Surely this isn't something most people want, as most people are not invited to the Messianic age; therefore they will be removed from reality, according to most eschatology globally (Zoroastrianism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, Christianity, Islam, American Indian, Taoism, etc).

Can't we work to fix the things, why do people need to argue rather than look for solutions; realize some people think it is all fantasy, especially some of the people within the religions themselves.... Yet too much of the prophecy has already happened to the letter.

Are true prophecies inevitable or is it possible to turn it all around, and God to change his mind; if we all recognized the error of our ways like Nineveh?

Is there anyway within prophecy for the Messiah to reverse it or does it have to be a final war, and God destroying all those who don't accept, before we can progress?

If you knew you were personally responsible because of your beliefs, would you change to avoid world wide destruction?

WW3 isn't going to happen because of some goat-herder from antiquity's heat stroke induced hallucination. But it may very well happen because people with serious authority and power believe it will and thus attempt to hasten it along.

It's a self-fulfilling prophecy, and those of us who don't treat said goat-herder's words as divine foresight are going to end up just as screwed over as those responsible.

 

[Kemosloby]

I think it's a two-fold problem. First you have destruction of Earth by Christ and his Angels bringing the new world government. But you also have those who mis-interpret scripture and believe people will have this war and bring a world government. So the odds of avoiding it are bad. We might even be in WW3, wars and rumors of wars..They never really stopped having wars.

 

[wizanda]

When it is over we will have peace and well being, so how can we bring it about ?

Isaiah 5:19 Who say, “Let him make speed, let him hasten his work, that we may see it; and let the counsel of the Holy One of Israel draw near and come, that we may know it!”

Amos 5:18 “Woe to you who desire the day of Yahweh! Why do you long for the day of Yahweh? It is darkness, and not light.

We can't bring it about; anything we do to hurry it that causes more negative affects, is likely to remove us from eternity...

God has to reset earth, as we're about to destroy it, and you want this to happen?

Well a world government perhaps granting each family, shelter, food, education, occupation, and harmonious community ..

This could be possible before it, by the Messiah interlinking all religions globally, and creating a world council....

Yet it would need everyone to help, and drop some beliefs for the sake of righteousness and unity.

It's a self-fulfilling prophecy

There isn't anything self fulfilling, about Israel being cursed, sent out throughout the nations, to then return, yet to become a burden some stone to all nations, so that it causes WW3, it is item specific...

Can detail so much prophecy, that is all extremely specific and all happen; again religious biases to questioning information available is likely to encourage the end result, as WW3 is heavily caused by the religious arguments.

Now we could say they are hastening it, and there is a brilliant documentary by Tony Robinson called the Doomsday Code; where it questions that politicians are siding with religious fundamentalists for the sake of keeping appearances.

First you have destruction of Earth by Christ and his Angels bringing the new world government.

Revelation 11:18 The nations were angry, and your wrath came, as did the time for the dead to be judged, and to give your bondservants the prophets, their reward, as well as to the saints, and those who fear your name, to the small and the great; and to destroy those who destroy the earth.”

This is God's creation, the meek shall inherit the earth, and Christ is to reign here...

It is humans that destroy here, God has to step in, which is then the final judgement... Yet God resets earth, not destroys it.

people will have this war and bring a world government.

Agreed that the New World Order or Babylon the Gr8 are manipulating the whole worlds economy, and creating these wars...

Though just the same as at the time of Christ, the people have the power to remove their leaders; yet we need to be united, and they're doing everything possible to make it appear as if the people are very divided.

We might even be in WW3, wars and rumors of wars..

Get what you're saying, that it appears by what Yeshua was saying that these are birthing pains; yet the contractions when they begin will hurt (nuclear), which is why God then has to step in.

 

[A Vestigial Mote]

Is there anyway within prophecy for the Messiah to reverse it or does it have to be a final war, and God destroying all those who don't accept, before we can progress?

So we're discounting God's abilities to do anything to prevent such a war and the resulting induction of pain and suffering, correct? He's not going to raise a hand to prevent anything at all, help anyone, etc.? I wonder why that is? Perhaps He is unable. Makes one wonder if all the talk of such powers completely blows God's abilities out of proportion. Perhaps He is nothing more than an omnipresent spectator?

And what do you think will "progress" once all the non-believers are destroyed or have destroyed themselves? Do you honestly believe that no new children will be born that have ideas more like mine than yours from that point on? That is tantamount to intellectual negligence. It's exactly like those who "await" the "rapture". The period of tribulation is said to last a thousand years. Is it expected that no innocent babies be born during that time? How fair is it to condemn babies to hellish conditions on Earth? And if the alternate case is true - that no babies are born - then the "thousand years" bit is pretty pointless since all humanity would die off within the first 70 (or so) years. The details like these - the ones completely glossed over or not even addressed by the scriptures - basically prove to my mind that it was written merely to "sound good". And if God is truly expected to be behind something like this, then is it any wonder some people have a hard time getting behind God?

Here's something to ponder - if Satan were to show himself to me, prove who he was, and offer to do something extraordinary for me if I sold my soul to him, his presence would immediately prove that God exists. Now, my fortitude is such that I would tell Satan to go stuff himself, and do so with extreme relish. However, knowledge that God exists would not see me jumping on His bandwagon either. I don't have to choose a side... and I would tell either side to go stuff themselves. I decide where my allegiance lies - not Satan, not God. A serious display of responsible and good-intentioned behavior would need to take place before I'd pledge my allegiance anywhere. As it stands... I just do not see it.

 

[Kemosloby]

Isaiah 5:19 Who say, “Let him make speed, let him hasten his work, that we may see it; and let the counsel of the Holy One of Israel draw near and come, that we may know it!”

Amos 5:18 “Woe to you who desire the day of Yahweh! Why do you long for the day of Yahweh? It is darkness, and not light.

We can't bring it about; anything we do to hurry it that causes more negative affects, is likely to remove us from eternity...

God has to reset earth, as we're about to destroy it, and you want this to happen?

This could be possible before it, by the Messiah interlinking all religions globally, and creating a world council....

Yet it would need everyone to help, and drop some beliefs for the sake of righteousness and unity.

There isn't anything self fulfilling, about Israel being cursed, sent out throughout the nations, to then return, yet to become a burden some stone to all nations, so that it causes WW3, it is item specific...

Can detail so much prophecy, that is all extremely specific and all happen; again religious biases to questioning information available is likely to encourage the end result, as WW3 is heavily caused by the religious arguments.

Now we could say they are hastening it, and there is a brilliant documentary by Tony Robinson called the Doomsday Code; where it questions that politicians are siding with religious fundamentalists for the sake of keeping appearances.

Revelation 11:18 The nations were angry, and your wrath came, as did the time for the dead to be judged, and to give your bondservants the prophets, their reward, as well as to the saints, and those who fear your name, to the small and the great; and to destroy those who destroy the earth.”

This is God's creation, the meek shall inherit the earth, and Christ is to reign here...

It is humans that destroy here, God has to step in, which is then the final judgement... Yet God resets earth, not destroys it.

Agreed that the New World Order or Babylon the Gr8 are manipulating the whole worlds economy, and creating these wars...

Though just the same as at the time of Christ, the people have the power to remove their leaders; yet we need to be united, and they're doing everything possible to make it appear as if the people are very divided.

Get what you're saying, that it appears by what Yeshua was saying that these are birthing pains; yet the contractions when they begin will hurt (nuclear), which is why God then has to step in.

No God destroys it. 2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare.

And besides, it says there will be a new heaven and a new earth, so what could our bombs do to heaven?

 

[Brickjectivity]

Wealthy countries are not interested in wars currently. Resources are plentiful and most populations are still growing. We could even be in for a thousand years of stability.

 

[YmirGF]

Wealthy countries are not interested in wars currently. Resources are plentiful and most populations are still growing. We could even be in for a thousand years of stability.

That will certainly put a damper on the Doomsday Festivities.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Is there anyway to prevent Snape from killing Dumbledore?

 

[YmirGF]

Is there anyway to prevent Snape from killing Dumbledore?

Hehe, you mean I was the only one cheering when Snape killed DumbleDork?

 

[YmirGF]

According to Biblical prophecy, all nations are to come against Jerusalem, and then God steps in to save those who are righteous; why do we need to have a World War, and everyone removed before people will accept who the Messiah is?

Personally, I take issue with the very first part of the sentence. I'm not altogether sure how anyone can actually take the alleged "prophecy" seriously. Due to the advent of nuclear weapons a third world war is extremely unlikely, because a nuclear war is a war that no one wants or, more importantly, no one wins.

My real feelings on this is that the passages are designed for people with considerably less information at their fingertips than we have nowadays. If some lunatic made these claims today we'd simply laugh, point and laugh some more, but because the narrative is from the hoary past, steeped in centuries of fanatical and dire interpretation, the sheeple bleat the doom song in a happy chorus.

So, in short, the best way to prevent a WW3 scenario? Stop believing in ancient Biblical "prophecy".

 

[Augustus]

In the long run WW3 is inevitable. Violence is part of our nature and sooner or later the 'right' circumstances will manifest themselves.

In the meantime there are many things we can do to prevent it. Not declaring war on anyone is a good start.

 

[wizanda]

And besides, it says there will be a new heaven and a new earth, so what could our bombs do to heaven?

The whole of reality will be rolled up like a scroll; yet before then there is a great war, multiple verses saying that when the Lord comes to defend Jerusalem it shall be with fire, hail, and a large earth quake....

Thus understand this as God needing to step in to help before we destroy all life, like Yeshua said: Matthew 24:22 Unless those days had been shortened, no flesh would have been saved. But for the sake of the chosen ones, those days will be shortened.

I'm not altogether sure how anyone can actually take the alleged "prophecy" seriously.

Anyone who spends enough time researching in the right light, should see many of the things have already happened.

Due to the advent of nuclear weapons a third world war is extremely unlikely, because a nuclear war is a war that no one wants or, more importantly, no one wins.

Considering they used depleted uranium in the Gulf War, think we need to rethink what extent psychopaths will go to.

So, in short, the best way to prevent a WW3 scenario? Stop believing in ancient Biblical "prophecy".

It isn't only Biblical, same is recorded in Zoroastrianism, Hinduism, Star Trek, multiple dystopian films; its like some predicted evolution of mankind, that the barbaric blood thirsty want to wipe themselves out.

Is there anyway to prevent Snape from killing Dumbledore?

Yes, especially if we read all the books before it happened, then went back in time to exchange the weapon used for something harmless, that makes it looks like he killed him, yet didn't.

So we're discounting God's abilities to do anything to prevent such a war and the resulting induction of pain and suffering, correct?

God can send people to try and change people; yet if God steps in, we're talking about the CPU that manifests reality.

Do you honestly believe that no new children will be born that have ideas more like mine than yours from that point on?

They made a film The Book of Eli, which is a dystopian future after WW£ due to religion, and the whole film is about them still holding onto using religion to manipulate the population.

Religion is an inevitable part of human evolution, science is its child still trying to create rules, and understanding to define the reality around us.

Thus someone will repeat the cycle, and new religions will establish as cultures divide.

 

[YmirGF]

It isn't only Biblical, same is recorded in Zoroastrianism, Hinduism, Star Trek, multiple dystopian films; its like some predicted evolution of mankind, that the barbaric blood thirsty want to wipe themselves out.

Star Trek? Multiple dystopian films? Seriously?

*Falls off chair laughing and pointing at the screen*

 

[wizanda]

Star Trek? Multiple dystopian films? Seriously?

*Falls off chair laughing and pointing at the screen*

We're in an artificial reality, where everything is processed by the CPU; the ideas we come up with can be given, which is where the idea of a genius came from, the spirit of the divine inspiring or a muse guiding us to create.

Nothing is as it seems; so personally open to questioning all perspectives, as we never know when something was put there for a reason, at the right time to guide us in enlightenment.

Not saying it is clearly then prophetic; just interesting that many people think similar ideas, and where they came from who knows.

 

[Satans_Serrated_Edge]

Star Trek? Multiple dystopian films? Seriously?

*Falls off chair laughing and pointing at the screen*

Are you saying star trek is a less accurate prophet than the Bible?

Kirk had a flip phone 50 years before anyone else!

 

[Satans_Serrated_Edge]

@wizanda

" Yet too much of the prophecy has already happened to the letter."

Such as?

 

[wizanda]

Such as?

Moses cursed Israel they'd be sent out among the nations for turning against their Lord, prophets continued that, and many specifications have already happened...

Yeshua warned that the world will be deceived by those claiming to be him using the term 'I Am' (Ego I-mee), in the gospel of John it repeatedly uses 'I am' statements symbolically to portray him as claiming himself as God, when he didn't speak this way in the Synoptic Gospels.

• 2nd temple destruction as specified (the 30 pieces of silver into the potters field in the house of Israel, was given to Judas (Zechariah 11)).
• Diaspora, and Jewish persecution throughout the Nations.
• Returning to the Land, yet it being a burdensome stone to the Nations.
• The world being deceived by Christianity (Paul, John, and Simon the stone (petros)).

Could show all the prophetic verses... In other religious texts can show prophecies about the Adharmic behavior, and removal of certain understanding; yet it isn't as item specific as the Biblical accounts, like depending how you look at things within it, it can show history unfolding before it happened.

 

[Onyx]

I doubt there will be a WW3, much less a "rapture" that "saves" a select few privileged souls. But if people choose to think that highly of themselves, go ahead, and welcome to Satanism.