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Why will our lives be better if there was no Religion.

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Yes, if they don't test and validate for themselves. It's accepted on faith. And, it can even be blind faith. That's why school is important. In class you verify many experiments. It's expected that you don't take people at their word. You don't need to do every experiment and those that you don't you should remain doubtful of. Science is always questioning itself. Scientists are always trying to validate and invalidate their claims. If a scientist cannot show you how to validate their claim, then it's not science.

If you want to take a scientist at their word, that's up to you, but that's not science. Science does not expect you take anyone at their word. If you do that's your fault. Not the fault of science.
Just a question, please, don't mind.
Man has landed on moon. Does one believe it?
Sure one has not oneself made this experiment of going on moon. How one would describe it? Is it faith or blind-faith? Please
Regards
 

Evie

Active Member
I'm going with the idea that the universe is godless and all religions offering gods are wrong. That pretty much accounts for why nothing has been or likely ever will be found to support any contrary idea.

The answers won't come from theologians. They never have.
No, I don't believe they will either. Consider the fact, or religious belief, that it was Mary Magdalene to whom Jesus FIRST appeared after His crucifixion. She was a prostitute.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Just a question, please, don't mind.
Man has landed on moon. Does one believe it?
Sure one has not oneself made this experiment of going on moon. How one would describe it? Is it faith or blind-faith? Please
Regards

I would say it's reasonable belief. You look at the evidence and decide for yourself whether or not it's reasonable to believe. You could still be wrong, but you could provide evidence to support the belief.

Faith is belief in something for which there is no proof. For example there's pictures of people walking on the moon. There's no pictures of God.
 

Evie

Active Member
I would say it's reasonable belief. You look at the evidence and decide for yourself whether or not it's reasonable to believe. You could still be wrong, but you could provide evidence to support the belief.

Faith is belief in something for which there is no proof. For example there's pictures of people walking on the moon. There's no pictures of God.
Many people do not believe they walked on the moon. That it was only made appear so. A movie was also made regarding it.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Many people do not believe they walked on the moon. That it was only made appear so. A movie was also made regarding it.

If they have a reasonable argument, then you have to evaluate it and decide. If they can't, then what are you basing your belief on? People who don't know something about it are saying it's a lie. What makes them worthy of trust?

If you don't personally know the person making the claim, you've no good reason to trust what they say. So you have to rely on what evidence they can provide you. Even if you do know them, few people you should fully trust.
 

Evie

Active Member
If they have a reasonable argument, then you have to evaluate it and decide. If they can't, then what are you basing your belief on? People who don't know something about it are saying it's a lie. What makes them worthy of trust?

If you don't personally know the person making the claim, you've no good reason to trust what they say. So you have to rely on what evidence they can provide you. Even if you do know them, few people you should fully trust.
. The movie was very convincing. And America has an an inner need or desire to be FIRST with things.
 

It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Just a question, please, don't mind.
Man has landed on moon. Does one believe it?
Sure one has not oneself made this experiment of going on moon. How one would describe it? Is it faith or blind-faith? Please
Regards

Why do faith based thinkers have such difficulty with common sense? Do you really have no idea how to decide what actually happened on the moon in the summer of 1969? Deciding this issue seems like a no-brainer to me. This deformed, convoluted type of thinking doesn't serve anybody well.
 

Evie

Active Member
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You need to be explicit. What's on your mind?
I was replying to someone who stated science and theologians will not find the answers to questions of life that remain a mystery. When I said I don't think they will either. And I added that it was Mary Magdalene, a former prostitute to whom Jesus FIRST appeared when he rose from the dead.
 
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It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
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I was replying to someone who stated science and theologians will not find the answers to questions of life that remain a mystery. When I said I don't think they will either. And I added that it was Mary Magdalene, a former prostitute to whom Jesus FIRST appeared when he rose from the dead.

OK. Thanks for the heads up.
 

Thumper

Thank the gods I'm an atheist
Just a question, please, don't mind.
Man has landed on moon. Does one believe it?
Sure one has not oneself made this experiment of going on moon. How one would describe it? Is it faith or blind-faith? Please
Regards
"Belief" has nothing to do with it. It is confidence in the evidence that matters. Having worked at both Cape Canaveral AFS and the Kennedy Space Center, had relatives who worked on the Apollo missions, and met some of the people who were there at the time and part of the effort, I personally have a very, very high level of confidence in the reality of all the moon landings. To date, we have had 2 dozen people circle the moon, and 12 who actually landed on it.
 

It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
. The movie was very convincing. And America has an an inner need or desire to be FIRST with things.

It doesn't take much thought to decide the issue of whether man has been to the moon or not. Think about what would happen if that had been faked. The Soviets, our rivals and enemies, knew about the launches and were capable of tracking the positions of the manned spacecraft. Why didn't they call bogus if the astronauts were actually hiding somewhere in the clouds or wherever for several days while supposedly visiting the moon?

We know that the Mercury, Gemini, and Space Shuttle programs were bona fide. Why would Apollo be a fraud? The Gemini missions, which preceded the Apollo program, involved extravehicular activity, orbital maneuvers including rendezvous and docking, studying long duration flights and the effects of weightlessness on the crew, and to perfect methods of reentry and landing at preselected landing points. It was only two steps further to touch down on the moon, the first being orbiting it (Apollo 8 and 10). Was all of that fraudulent?

It is also now possible to measure the earth-moon distance to within centimeters thanks to the Lunar Laser Ranging experiment, which uses the mirrors aimed and left behind by three Apollo crews. How do you account for that if nobody was on the moon?

Or, ignore all that, guess, and believe your guess by faith. These are the competing methods of thinking these days.
 
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