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Does Science create any facts?

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
I create facts, I don't see why scientists couldn't.
Sometimes it's necessary to create standards. Like in manufacturing, all "wigets" have to pass certain standards. That they have to pass those standards becomes a fact.

Really depends on the context. Scientists do both, create some facts and discover others.

Just to add, Ann Rand distinguishes the difference as being metaphysical facts versus man made facts.

Metaphysical facts are discovered. These would exist whether man was present or not.

OTOH it's a fact there are 50 states in the US. That's something man created. We could have divided up the US into a different number of states.

So science could create "man made facts" but discovers "metaphysical" facts.
 
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Bob the Unbeliever

Well-Known Member
Science just discovers them; they exist already in nature created by God. Right?

Please

Depends on what you mean by "fact" here.

Does a never-before-seen painting, created by a very talented artist count as the artist creating the fact of the painting? No need for a god in that example-- the artist creates the painting without magic.
 

Kelly of the Phoenix

Well-Known Member
Science just discovers them; they exist already in nature created by God. Right?
In Genesis, God only really creates Light via talking. The rest is already there in some sort of Chaos. He just fiddles with it until you start seeing individual stuff and not just "matter soup". So, if you want to be real nitpicky, God didn't create everything in nature either.
 

miodrag

Member
Science just discovers them; they exist already in nature created by God.

What are facts? If facts = reality, then science does not create it. Fact is a mental concept of reality. Science does not make that mental concept either.

Science is also not about discovering facts. Epistemology explains that science does not deal with the Truth, nor the truth, and the least of all with facts. Science explains and predicts phenomena, and that has nothing to do with truth whatsoever. Exception is mathematics, but the concept of truth there has a different meaning.

God does not create facts. If God is eternal, then that is an eternal fact, which was never created.
 
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