• Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
    • Access to private conversations with other members.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!

Can we remove the dogma from science?

leibowde84

Veteran Member
Please
Regards
There is no dogma in science. That is literally the entire point of the scientific method. It is based solely on evidence, not dogma. Religious belief, such as belief that the Quran is the word of God, is dogmatic, as it must be taken on faith that Muhammad was 100% being honest.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Well, to be fair, scientists are people, with the usual human foibles. They've been known to be more wedded to their theories than evidence would warrant.
But, on the whole, I'd have to agree with Leibowde. The whole system is designed to avoid dogma and track the evidence.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
One may like to read:

"Our goal is not to destroy Ted, but rather to keep its stage one that doesn’t promote dogmatism and provokes evolving thinking. We believe Ted, as an institution with so much influence and trust from its constituents has a duty to hear, acknowledge and respond to those same constituents.
Join our growing list of scientists and academics, including Nobel Prize winning Physicist, Brian D. Josephson FRS, Emeritus Professor of Physics at University of Cambridge, in signing the petition calling for the Sheldrake lecture to be fully reinstated. If you are a PhD or MD and you care about scientific integrity and open science for all disciplines, click Petition & Recommendations to sign the petition."
http://setsciencefree.org/
Please
Regards
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
There is no dogma in science.
This isn't always true.
I specifically recall institutional resistance to the idea that bacteria cause ulcers.
Scientists are only puny miserable humans, so there will at times be a culture
reluctant to accept novel theories. Fortunately, the method is better than we are.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
One may like to read:

"Our goal is not to destroy Ted, but rather to keep its stage one that doesn’t promote dogmatism and provokes evolving thinking. We believe Ted, as an institution with so much influence and trust from its constituents has a duty to hear, acknowledge and respond to those same constituents.
Join our growing list of scientists and academics, including Nobel Prize winning Physicist, Brian D. Josephson FRS, Emeritus Professor of Physics at University of Cambridge, in signing the petition calling for the Sheldrake lecture to be fully reinstated. If you are a PhD or MD and you care about scientific integrity and open science for all disciplines, click Petition & Recommendations to sign the petition."
Set Science Free.org
Please
Regards
This proves the point that science does not have an issue with dogma. Scientific integrity demands that all voices be heard and scrutinized. No dogma there.

It seems that your claim of dogma has nothing to do with science, but, instead, has to do with the dogma of certain individuals in the field. Scientists, like everyone else, are not perfect people.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
This isn't always true.
I specifically recall institutional resistance to the idea that bacteria cause ulcers.
Scientists are only puny miserable humans, so there will at times be a culture
reluctant to accept novel theories. Fortunately, the method is better than we are.
That isn't an example of dogma in science. It is a problem with dogma in certain members of the field of science. As you say, scientists aren't perfect. And, as such, their resistance in this context does not present dogma in science itself. It merely shows their own dogma.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
This article expresses the problem of hubris working against science. Science and the scientific method contains no dogma. Human beings, otoh, have a tendency to screw things up. That doesn't speak to any problems with dogma in science, it speaks to problems of inherent dogma in human minds.
The same is true for the truthful religion.
Regards
 
Top