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In what ideas should we believe?

Jeremiahcp

Well-Known Jerk
Alright. Point taken.

Ciao

- viole

There is some truth to what you are saying, your targeting was just a bit off. Not all evidence is easily replicated. Sometimes we only get a limited number of chances to study something. Then that chance passes like the eclipse coming up this summer.
 

jcforever

Member
"Some of them appear to move on their own and some don't."

Like your beliefs, as they seem to have stopped moving. Most likely due to an overdose on the Bible. I suggest a heavy regiment of SpongeBob SquarePants until you think Patrick Star is the funnest thing ever. It won't help you to once again think clearly, as I am afraid there may just be to much damage inflicted by the overdose but it should be right at your intellectual level.

I have a different theory: The "spiritual" person cannot understand the teachings of Christ, as they can't look at them objectively .

Your arrogant reply tells me who you're influenced by.
 
No because if treat others differently then how you want to be treated, you have to explain that you don't want to be treated that way. You have to explain why you feel they should treat you differently and you have to hope that they agree with you. Its a lot more work and a less than likely response.
I see no evidence for that assertion. I do see plenty of evidence of people behaving as you describe being steamrolled by other people regularly, however.

Even more so, I see plenty of evidence that those that preach your golden rule are just as likely as anyone else not to follow it.
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
I see no evidence for that assertion. I do see plenty of evidence of people behaving as you describe being steamrolled by other people regularly, however.

Even more so, I see plenty of evidence that those that preach your golden rule are just as likely as anyone else not to follow it.

I don't deny any of that. This was a list of best ideas not current practices.

Not everybody is open minded today either
Not everybody embraces differences either

They were my opinions of best ideas for the world, obviously I don't believe they are being practiced today and obviously you don't have to agree but I am not changing my opinion.
 
I don't deny any of that. This was a list of best ideas not current practices.

Not everybody is open minded today either
Not everybody embraces differences either

They were my opinions of best ideas for the world, obviously I don't believe they are being practiced today and obviously you don't have to agree but I am not changing my opinion.
To use a metaphor, it is self defeating to act as a sheep in a world of wolves.
 

Segev Moran

Well-Known Member
The title is the easy question? The hard question is why?
You should only believe things that give the best demonstrated explanation when it comes to scientific issues.
When it comes the philosophy, you should believe whatever makes you feel good.

The hard answer:

Science matters: The fact is: Science works! Believing an idea that contradicts our reality, can lead to a very dangerous place!
Philosophy matters: Obvious i assume.
 

arthra

Baha'i
That is an interesting what and why answer. But, what manner should we respond to problems we face? And why (of course)?

Thanks for your reply George... In my view we are inter related .. all of us face crises. When I walk down the street and see an over hanging branch that's in a tree from the last wind storm and I'm tall enough and strong enough ... I take down that branch and place it along the side of the road where it is harmless. Now I could just ignore it.. but what if a mother is walking along with a baby carriage and the branch should collapse on her and the child. You see we can't anticipate all of the repercussions our lack of action can take.

My wife was a teacher and i was a social worker both of us were in helping professions and have a similar perspective on meeting the needs of people. When we don't look out for each other in life it falls back on us to bear the burden ... so the burden needs to be lightened.
 

Curious George

Veteran Member
Principles conveying our perspective and outlook are important as they influence how we respond to problems we face..
In my view we are inter related .. all of us face crises. When I walk down the street and see an over hanging branch that's in a tree from the last wind storm and I'm tall enough and strong enough ... I take down that branch and place it along the side of the road where it is harmless. Now I could just ignore it.. but what if a mother is walking along with a baby carriage and the branch should collapse on her and the child. You see we can't anticipate all of the repercussions our lack of action can take.

My wife was a teacher and i was a social worker both of us were in helping professions and have a similar perspective on meeting the needs of people. When we don't look out for each other in life it falls back on us to bear the burden ... so the burden needs to be lightened.
So, if I may put these together, we should believe that "principles conveying our perspective and out looks are important," because this belief "influence(s) How we respond to problems." And believing such will guide us to act in a compassionate manner, which is important because we are connected and because we cannot or at least should not carry the burden alone?

Now there are a lot of beliefs/assumptions packed into all of that, but it does resonate a hopeful message. If I could distill your messages it would seem you are suggesting implying we should believe in the importance of others because it will lead toward compassion which we need.

Is that fair?
 

arthra

Baha'i
So, if I may put these together, we should believe that "principles conveying our perspective and out looks are important," because this belief "influence(s) How we respond to problems." And believing such will guide us to act in a compassionate manner, which is important because we are connected and because we cannot or at least should not carry the burden alone?

Now there are a lot of beliefs/assumptions packed into all of that, but it does resonate a hopeful message. If I could distill your messages it would seem you are suggesting implying we should believe in the importance of others because it will lead toward compassion which we need.

Is that fair?

Fair enough and for me it resonates!:)
 
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