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How would I choose even if I wanted to?

Cobol

Code Jockey
Not unless you can explain how matter, and energy came into existence, and how life originated from lifeless elements.

After the big bang there was a lot of energy in the form of light, which comes in discrete packets called photons. When photons have enough energy, they can spontaneously decay into a particle and an antiparticle. (An antiparticle is the exact opposite of the corresponding particle--for example, a proton has charge +e, so an antiproton has charge -e.) This is easily observed today, as gamma rays have enough energy to create measurable electron-antielectron pairs. A photon is just one of a class of particles, called the bosons, that decay in this manner. Many of the bosons around just after the big bang were so energetic that they could decay into much more massive particles such as protons (remember, E=mc2, so to make a particle with a large mass m, you need a boson with a high energy E). The mass in the universe came from such decays.

There was exactly as much antimatter as there is matter. When the universe had cooled somewhat each particle would have found an antiparticle and combined to form a boson. The survival of even such a small fraction was enough to form all of the matter in our universe.

Early earth's atmosphere was very different from the atmosphere of today. Early earth's atmosphere would have been composed of methane, ammonia, hydrogen and water vapor. Scientists have sealed theses gases in an airtight container, and then exposed the gases to sparks of electricity to simulate lightning. They continued the lightning for a week, and by the end, a reddish-brown substance had coated the walls of the container. This substance contained amino acids used by life on earth.

As far as your other responses, i don't think your comprehending what i said.
 
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confused453

Active Member
Not unless you can explain how matter, and energy came into existence, and how life originated from lifeless elements.

Matter / energy is eternal. Science will eventually figure out how life came to be.

God is eternal.
Why do you need a God if matter / energy is eternal?


Or you do not understand God.
Or you do not understand the universe.


It is harder to understand how matter, energy and life created itself out of nothing.
Harder, but not impossible.



Instead of telling us what didn;t happen, us all how the things we have came into being. The alpha and the omega, do not refer to God, they refer to His word.
This needs more time. Tech and knowledge still too fresh.. Science and Technology did for us more in few hundred years than religious teachings in thousands of years!
 

omega2xx

Well-Known Member
After the big bang there was a lot of energy in the form of light, which comes in discrete packets called photons. When photons have enough energy, they can spontaneously decay into a particle and an antiparticle. (An antiparticle is the exact opposite of the corresponding particle--for example, a proton has charge +e, so an antiproton has charge -e.) This is easily observed today, as gamma rays have enough energy to create measurable electron-antielectron pairs. A photon is just one of a class of particles, called the bosons, that decay in this manner. Many of the bosons around just after the big bang were so energetic that they could decay into much more massive particles such as protons (remember, E=mc2, so to make a particle with a large mass m, you need a boson with a high energy E). The mass in the universe came from such decays.


Where did the matter that went bang originate? Where did the energy that cause the BB come from.

There was exactly as much antimatter as there is matter.

Whee is your evidence?

When the universe had cooled somewhat each particle would have found an antiparticle and combined to form a boson. The survival of even such a small fraction was enough to form all of the matter in our universe

Pure speculation with absolutely no evidence.

Early earth's atmosphere was very different from the atmosphere of today. Early earth's atmosphere would have been composed of methane, ammonia, hydrogen and water vapor. Scientists have sealed theses gases in an airtight container, and then exposed the gases to sparks of electricity to simulate lightning. They continued the lightning for a week, and by the end, a reddish-brown substance had coated the walls of the container. This substance contained amino acids used by life on earth

You have yet to explain the origin of matter and energy. how did amino acids originate from lifeless elements?

As far as your other responses, i don't think your comprehending what i said.

I understand it enough to know you are just blowing smoke and have not offered any scientific evcidence.
 

omega2xx

Well-Known Member
Matter / energy is eternal. Science will eventually figure out how life came to be.

They may be but you can't prove it. You still cant get life out of lifeless elements.

Why do you need a God if matter / energy is eternal?

You don't , but you need an Intelligent Designer to have order come from random elements

Or you do not understand the universe.

I understand it as well as you do,k probably better.

Harder, but not impossible.

You can't get blood out of a rock and you can get life out of lifeless elements. Even science admits that.

This needs more time. Tech and knowledge still too fresh.. Science and Technology did for us more in few hundred years than religious teachings in thousands of years!

This is not about religion. Stick to the subject.
 

Cobol

Code Jockey
Whee is your evidence?

The particle physics laboratory

Where did the matter that went bang originate? Where did the energy that cause the BB come from.

Virtual particles that pop in and out of existence from nothing.

Pure speculation with absolutely no evidence.

Again, you are not comprehending.


You have yet to explain the origin of matter and energy. how did amino acids originate from lifeless elements?

Again, you are not either reading or don't understand, and I'm giving up hope with you.
 

omega2xx

Well-Known Member
The particle physics laboratory
A laboratory is not evidence.

Virtual particles that pop in and out of existence from nothing.

That never happens because it requires a perfect vacuum and a perfect vacuum is impossible.

Again, you are not comprehending.

Right. Agree or you don;t understand. I do understand, that is why I reject it.


Again, you are not either reading or don't understand, and I'm giving up hope with you.

Have a nice day and when you can provide some evidence for what you say, get back to me.
 

Cobol

Code Jockey
Omega2xx

Again, you don't have a good understanding of how virtual particles work, so I'm done with you.

This is the wrong thread for this.
 

omega2xx

Well-Known Member
Again, you don't have a good understanding of how virtual particles work, so I'm done with you.

This is the wrong thread for this.

You don't understand that need a perfect vacuum and it is impossible to have perfect vacuum.

Have a nice day.
 

Cobol

Code Jockey
You don't understand that need a perfect vacuum and it is impossible to have perfect vacuum.

Have a nice day.

Scientists have long known that virtual particles pop in and out from nothing.

You have no understanding on this subject, and don't know what your talking about. READ!
 
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omega2xx

Well-Known Member
Scientists have long known that virtual particles pop in and out from nothing.

You have no understanding on this subject, and don't know what your talking about. READ!

The know no such thing. What they know is that for what they see they need a perfect vacuum and we know that is impossible.

Even if it was true, it could not explain life originating from lifeless elements. You have been indoctrinated into believing something without any supporting evidence. Your faith is greater than mine.
 

ratiocinator

Lightly seared on the reality grill.
The know no such thing. What they know is that for what they see they need a perfect vacuum and we know that is impossible.

Actually, they do and a perfect vacuum is not required. Measurement of the Casimir effect provides the evidence.

What is the Casimir Effect?
The effect was predicted by the Dutch physicist Hendrick Casimir in 1948. According to the quantum theory, the vacuum contains virtual particles which are in a continuous state of fluctuation (see physics FAQ article on virtual particles). Casimir realised that between two plates, only those virtual photons whose wavelengths fit a whole number of times into the gap should be counted when calculating the vacuum energy. The energy density decreases as the plates are moved closer, which implies that there is a small force drawing them together.
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The tiny force was measured in 1996 by Steven Lamoreaux. His results were in agreement with the theory to within the experimental uncertainty of 5%.
 

cataway

Well-Known Member
Israel was given a set of laws to fallow , when they fallowed the laws and regulations things went well for them . when they did not things went real bad . the record shows this to be true . the simple thing to do is to do things Gods way.
 

Cobol

Code Jockey
The Casimir effect is a prediction of quantum electrodynamics - one of the best tested theories in the history of science - and a prediction that has been confirmed by experiment.

I Agree

Virtual particles are, in principle, mathematical calculations.


Physicists only care that these mathematical calculations give results that agree with an experiment.
 

omega2xx

Well-Known Member
The Casimir effect is a prediction of quantum electrodynamics - one of the best tested theories in the history of science - and a prediction that has been confirmed by experiment.

What did it predict and confirm? If it did what you say, then that part of quantum physics is real science.
 
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