Is genesis history? Move event tonight in the us. What say you

[whirlingmerc]

long ages or special creation?
One evolutionary tree. Or a creation art orchard?

See. Movie trailer on YouTube. Is genesis history

 

[Kemosloby]

I would guess it was a special creation, though the world is opposed to it. Like God set up the days in the Jewish religion to follow creation. Day 1 started in darkness, then God said let there be light. And that was the first day. Likewise the Jewish day begins at evening and ends at sunset. And on the seventh day God rested, and on the seventh day the Jews keep the Sabbath.

 

[whirlingmerc]

I would guess it was a special creation, though the world is opposed to it. Like God set up the days in the Jewish religion to follow creation. Day 1 started in darkness, then God said let there be light. And that was the first day. Likewise the Jewish day begins at evening and ends at sunset. And on the seventh day God rested, and on the seventh day the Jews keep the Sabbath.

I would also take genesis both as history and portending Jesus. The sunset of the sun of god goes before the sunrise of the son of god. Death before resurection

 

[whirlingmerc]

I believe the movie is showing multicast at 7pm central standard time.

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

Genesis is no more history than the Völuspá

 

[whirlingmerc]

Genesis is no more history than the Völuspá

More like 10 histories. The toledot accounts

 

[metis]

It definitely is not history, nor was it meant to be by all indications.
The evidence we have is that it was taken from an earlier Babylonian set of narratives and modified by our early ancestors to both teach the morals and values we hold dear, and also to refute competing concepts. A tablet that contains the prototype from Babylonia was found in northern Israel, and it predates the writing of Genesis by a significant number of years.

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

It is myth. As are all creation accounts.

 

[whirlingmerc]

It definitely is not history, nor was it meant to be by all indications.
The evidence we have is that it was taken from an earlier Babylonian set of narratives and modified by our early ancestors to both teach the morals and values we hold dear, and also to refute competing concepts. A tablet that contains the prototype from Babylonia was found in northern Israel, and it predates the writing of Genesis by a significant number of years.

It's like Gilgamesh. The guy with a cube shape ark that would roll all over the ocean like a volleyball? Noah had a boring boat shape that well would float

 

[Aštra’el]

I see it as a combination of allegory and metaphor, inherited and original mythology, remnants of various historical accounts, insights into human Nature and ancient human culture, and esoteric spiritual-religious secrets.

Yes, that Holy Bible certainly is one of humanity's greatest creations.

 

[metis]

It's like Gilgamesh. The guy with a cube shape ark that would roll all over the ocean like a volleyball? Noah had a boring boat shape that well would float

It's not the narrative that Gilgamesh is found in but from another narrative that seems to have been written near that same time.

Also, there's an exact replica of Noah's ark found in Amsterdam Harbor but they won't allow it to go out because computer simulations consider it to be way too unstable to take a chance on.

 

[metis]

It is myth. As are all creation accounts.

"Myth" in regards to teachings? I would agree with that, and it's the teachings that are far more important than any supposed historical accuracy on this. So many insist it's history but don't seem to realize that it's the messages found inside that really matter.

Societies the world over have a history of taking teachings from other societies, modifying them, and then teaching the modifications to their people.

 

[whirlingmerc]

It's not the narrative that Gilgamesh is found in but from another narrative that seems to have been written near that same time.

Also, there's an exact replica of Noah's ark found in Amsterdam Harbor but they won't allow it to go out because computer simulations consider it to be way too unstable to take a chance on.

It's not the narrative that Gilgamesh is found in but from another narrative that seems to have been written near that same time.

Also, there's an exact replica of Noah's ark found in Amsterdam Harbor but they won't allow it to go out because computer simulations consider it to be way too unstable to take a chance on.

There is good evidence for Jericho wall event. Sodom having fires started from the roofs. Abrams name. And Semitic slaves in egypt

 

[metis]

There is good evidence for Jericho wall event.

According to archaeologists, the walls of Jericho "fell" at least at least around 15 different times. This is a pattern used throughout the Middle East in ancient times, which is why so many towns and cities are higher in elevation that the oldest part of these same sites. IOW, knock the old down and build over the top. Jerusalem is much higher than it used to be, and I've spent time at some of the underground sites there that used to be on the surface thousands of years ago.

Sodom having fires started from the roofs.

Link please?

Abrams name.

Link please?

And Semitic slaves in egypt

Maybe-- maybe not. One Egyptian citation includes a word that some feel may refer to Jews but they're simply not at all sure of that.

 

[whirlingmerc]

"Myth" in regards to teachings? I would agree with that, and it's the teachings that are far more important than any supposed historical accuracy on this. So many insist it's history but don't seem to realize that it's the messages found inside that really matter.

Societies the world over have a history of taking teachings from other societies, modifying them, and then teaching the modifications to their people.

What message do you see in genesis? God is creator. Judge covenant keeper and man needs redemption?

 

[Nietzsche]

Genesis is no more history than the Völuspá

Ours is way more metal, though.

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

"Myth" in regards to teachings?

In essence. I view "myth" as things that cannot be shown or proven in any way, but have cultural meaning to a peoples. Essentially like so:

Now
History: What happened in the past that we can remember (due to accounts or records)
Legend: History that has passed into obscurity or embellishment
Myth: Legends that have passed beyond all human memory, yet retain cultural life.

 

[metis]

What message do you see in genesis? God is creator. Judge covenant keeper and man needs redemption?

I'm "out the door" in about one minute, so please respond back to this post so I know to deal with your question when I return in a couple of hours.

 

[metis]

In essence. I view "myth" as things that cannot be shown or proven in any way, but have cultural meaning to a peoples.

Thanks for the clarification. In anthropology, we use "myth" to indicate a narrative whose purpose is to teach morals and values, regardless as to whether there's any historical credence to them.

Gotta go.

 

[Guy Threepwood]

long ages or special creation?
One evolutionary tree. Or a creation art orchard?

See. Movie trailer on YouTube. Is genesis history

It correctly identified a specific creation event (which atheists initially mocked and rejected as 'big bang')
That the universe was pure light at an early stage
That Earth was once entirely water covered
Then one great ocean and one great land mass,
That life appeared in distinct sudden stages, not smooth gradual increments,
With animal life beginning in the ocean


Credit where it's due, it has been the most consistently accurate historical account we have.

But it is a general guide, summary, to provide humanity a context for life, and it must be general enough to resonate across millennia, continents, cultures as it has successfully done

it's not meant to be a scientific cheat sheet, the details are for us to explore and learn about, what better way to appreciate anything?