Where is god?

[A Vestigial Mote]

To follow and understand what is taught, not the person.

For them to be Oneness, to live in harmony as their ultimate goal.

To accept that we're possibly all fallen angels down near Hell, with the ability to fly when we all work together.
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There is something to what you're saying. I don't go for all the mystical mumbo-jumbo, but I agree that humanity would be quite a force to be reckoned with if we all started working together. Information share, mutual trust and understanding, making one another responsible by being responsible as the standard to the point that everyone takes pride in that feeling of being trusted and granting trust... knowing you're part of something bigger because you're part of humanity.

 

[FearGod]

This is complete crap. You at least know someone who's relative of some sort worked in a car factory. You can go buy parts at the auto-parts store, which were made by companies employing human beings. You can drive past car manufacturing plants, you see and read news about the big brands - can know the names of the current CEO, CFO, COO of those companies - and you can know the new names of new people in those positions when those positions change hands. You can read the history and see photographs of people designing and building cars. In other words there is a vast array of physical, tangible evidence that people make cars - far more vast than any amount of real evidence God will ever grant us. Why do you think that is?

I can realize these things without seeing them.

 

[arthra]

If the Biblical god really exists, and is not a figment of the imagination, why does it not make its presence clear without equivocation? By not revealing its presence in a way that is irrefutable, it would be most unjust if unbelief resulted in dire consequences as some would have you believe.

My belief is that God makes Himself known to us... to the degree we can understand..through His Messengers. Some of us call these Messengers Manifestations of God. So such Messengers were born as we are and suffered the same pains we have and outwardly physically appear the same as us but They have received revelations from God the Central Spiritual Orb of the universe and They reflect the Light They received to us in our languages over the aeons. These revelations are a guidance for humanity for the ages they were revealed in.

 

[Cephus]

Because the last time he showed up, they put him to death.

Not much of a god then, was he?

 

[Cephus]

Notice that Jesus is not available for comment. He does not need anything.

Absolutely no dead people are available for comment. How is Jesus any demonstrably different?

 

[Brickjectivity]

Absolutely no dead people are available for comment. How is Jesus any demonstrably different?

Too off topic for me.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

What if the materials do exist but there's no man to make the car?I don't believe in randomness and chances.

Logically? No car (the structure to call it a car) The materials would exist without the construction of it to call it a car.

However, that's just talking about what believers call "human logic" type of thing. Humans say "we create" a painting. We create a baby girl. We create. That's fine.

Life revolves without us. It does not need a creator like humans feel we need one. By fact it changes and forms to different things. We die and turn to ashes. Everything is made of a whole by it's individual parts.

Life is randomness. We find pattern in it to make sense of the world. It's natural to do. Animals do the same thing. Ants do it too. Human's aren't special. We use things that are randomly here and put it together in a pattern to make sense of the world. Plants do the same thing just as birds as well as the laws of attraction.

The world doesn't start with the puzzle already put together (having a design). We-all nature-are putting the puzzle together to make sense of the environment around us. It is still a randomly organized puzzle. Its the illusion of creating a pattern that helps us function.

It's alright to have no belief in randomness or chance. Life doesn't work that way, though. We are not the center of the universe.

 

[Willamena]

If the Biblical god really exists, and is not a figment of the imagination, why does it not make its presence clear without equivocation?

By not revealing its presence in a way that is irrefutable, it would be most unjust if unbelief resulted in dire consequences as some would have you believe.

Because if you don't accept everything present to you as God, you would hardly accept presence itself as God.

 

[A Vestigial Mote]

I can realize these things without seeing them.

True... but the fundamental difference between not seeing those things and understanding they exist and not seeing God and yet "understanding" He exists, is the proliferation of evidence, proof and mutually verifiable experience that comes with car manufacture. It's literally everywhere. There is nary a window within moderately to densely populated areas that you could look out of and NOT see a vehicle - and if you felt so inclined, you could approach any of the owners of those cars and ask them where they got it from. So much of the evidence to be had can be consumed within our own lifetimes... it's not written in some out-moded time by people not even your grandparents grandparents grandparents knew - and it isn't interpreted in a thousand different ways, or relayed to you by a hundred different people, all with slightly different accounts, and yet all claiming they are inspired by the same source as they go about the business of informing you. Religious analogies are some of the most self-serving, specious statements in existence.

 

[psychoslice]

Because the last time he showed up, they put him to death.

But that wasn't God.

 

[wizanda]

But that wasn't God.

Not much of a god then, was he?

The question was about Yah-Avah Elohim (plural), who came in the form of Yeshua; thus it wasn't the God Most High (EL ELyon singular).

 

[Fool]

If the Biblical god really exists, and is not a figment of the imagination, why does it not make its presence clear without equivocation?

By not revealing its presence in a way that is irrefutable, it would be most unjust if unbelief resulted in dire consequences as some would have you believe.

Love is a circle whose center is everywhere, and whose circumference is no where.


Love is God

 

[IndigoStorm]

If the Biblical god really exists, and is not a figment of the imagination, why does it not make its presence clear without equivocation?

By not revealing its presence in a way that is irrefutable, it would be most unjust if unbelief resulted in dire consequences as some would have you believe.

He's up among the clouds with every believer who ever lived and died seated at his right hand. Or words to that effect ..........

 

[Cephus]

The question was about Yah-Avah Elohim (plural), who came in the form of Yeshua; thus it wasn't the God Most High (EL ELyon singular).

Well look at all the crap you just made up.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

Do we need to see the cars manufacturers to believe that they made the cars?

Ok, now where is yours?

There is a difference to being able to prove it and not being able to prove it.

 

[Super Universe]

If the Biblical god really exists, and is not a figment of the imagination, why does it not make its presence clear without equivocation?

By not revealing its presence in a way that is irrefutable, it would be most unjust if unbelief resulted in dire consequences as some would have you believe.

Where is God? There is no distance between God and you. The material universe is a hologram made up of eleven different levels of what you call space/time. God, and heaven, exist in non-space/time. Essentially, you are a character in a movie and God is the movie projector but the movie is not projected onto something, it's imagined by God.

Why doesn't God make Himself known? Because that would violate the purpose of the universe.

Unbelief does not result in dire consequences unless, at the next level, it becomes so great that it hinders learning. It does not matter what you believe on the earth. The religions will tell you different because they want you to believe what they believe. They need followers for their church to exist.

At the next level you still don't have to believe in God or Jesus initially. You will be taught the truth about how God, about Jesus, and about how the universe really works. You have to attend school and learn the material that is presented.

In the higher levels of the universe if you refuse to learn or become disruptive or rebellious, then there's nothing that can be done with you. Certain primitive genes that cause excessive anger can be modified but you will not be forced to believe in anything you do not wish to believe in. If you are stubborn and refuse to believe then you cannot ascend to heaven and you cannot stay forever at the middle levels. There are only two options, you will have to either accept that God exists or cease to exist.

 

[FearGod]

Ok, now where is yours?

There is a difference to being able to prove it and not being able to prove it.

The prophecies are the evidence.

 

[james bond]

I found a way for atheists to find God, pagan gods or experience with higher beings. I did experiment with psychedelics while in college, but was rational enough to think I wasn't God. I did it to rebel, i.e. I do not believe what you are telling me about drugs, and expand my mind and not in a search for God (which was another experience completely). Thus, I didn't jump from a balcony even though I felt I could fly. It gives one a transcendent experience and a view at an alternative reality that lasts for about a twelve-hour period. I read Carlos Castaneda's A Separate Reality for class versus Moksha by Aldous Huxley to understand some of it. It is an en"lightening" experience.

Maybe Moksha is more relevant for today's generation.

Moksha

Disclaimer: I wouldn't recommend it to anyone over 40, but that's just my opinion. I guess it's best for the young to experiment with and one who is healthy and pretty well grounded mentally to begin with.

 

[james bond]

JB knows the power of caffeine, too. For those too old or not inclined to try psychedelics, there is the power of caffeine. You should have a good heart with this one.

Go to Philz Coffee whenever you are in the San Francisco - Bay Area and order a large Tantalizing Turkish with cardamon, herbs and tobacco. They changed the recipe since I last tried it. The cardamon gets the caffeine in your bloodstream and to your brain faster. I ordered it early in the morning around 6 am and was buzzing until 8 pm. One sip and you will know. Try it when the weather forecast is for sunny. The sun was shiner, the air felt warmer and music sounded clearer and better.

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Disclaimer: While it probably won't give you a transcendent experience, it should give you a finer appreciation for the power of caffeine. Usually, Turkish coffee is drank in much smaller proportions for the truth seekers.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

The prophecies are the evidence.

What prophecies, where?