Rapha
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The God Presence beyond the Universe does not need to reveal Him self as He is the entire Universe. If you cannot feel him, you are not human.By not revealing its presence in a way that is irrefutable
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The God Presence beyond the Universe does not need to reveal Him self as He is the entire Universe. If you cannot feel him, you are not human.By not revealing its presence in a way that is irrefutable
If the Biblical god really exists, and is not a figment of the imagination, why does it not make its presence clear without equivocation?
By not revealing its presence in a way that is irrefutable, it would be most unjust if unbelief resulted in dire consequences as some would have you believe.
If the Biblical god really exists, and is not a figment of the imagination, why does it not make its presence clear without equivocation?
Here we go.If the Biblical god really exists, and is not a figment of the imagination, why does it not make its presence clear without equivocation?
By not revealing its presence in a way that is irrefutable, it would be most unjust if unbelief resulted in dire consequences as some would have you believe.
There is plenty of evidence that there is a supernatural being we call God (He has a personal name in addition to the 'title' God). There is, roughly, 2,000 prophecies given that prove He is there. He wants mankind to honor, worship and love Him based on faith and the facts, not blindly. If, however, He were to show Himself or prove He exists then everyone would serve bc 'seeing is believing' and not by faith. But He wants us to prove He exists by our efforts and for ourselves. That way we don't follow 'every wind of doctrine' from others. It never fails to surprise me to find that people spend years learning a Trade or getting an Education but then never take more than a few moments each day to learn about God. I believe that if more people did some deeper research there'd be no doubt in anyone's mind that God does, indeed, exist. That's how it happened for me, anyway. And, it can happen for everyone, I believe. The only two options are creation and evolution. Since we have been digging up dinosaurs for about 200 years with over 200 million fossils found, to date, and not a single one can be categorically stated as a transitional fossil, nor have we found different stages of the evolutionary process in the fossil record, it is crystal clear that evolution did not occur. Thus, Creation and that means God. These are my personal beliefs, or course, but there is a lot of truth to them. So much so that, to me, evolution is a Fairy Tale for those unwilling to investigate the possibility that God exists, imo and noi.If the Biblical god really exists, and is not a figment of the imagination, why does it not make its presence clear without equivocation?
By not revealing its presence in a way that is irrefutable, it would be most unjust if unbelief resulted in dire consequences as some would have you believe.
Well, Jesus did predict electricity, TVs, video cameras, rockets and satellites- all in one statement. I'd say that is overwhelming proof. But I know others would disagree with me still.Jesus was no sort of god he was just a human guy with faults and failings like the rest of .
And... He wouldn't be God if He appeared. He said the 'next' time He comes (Returns) will be at the Rapture (means=snatching away, taken by force, etc) where He will only appear in the sky (where the whole world will see Him). So if He came before then He would be a liar. And who wants to praise, worship and serve a known liar? Not me.Notice that Jesus is not available for comment. He does not need anything.
3 proofs-What evidence is there that god is anything but a figment of the human imagination?
You can't confirm that the car has a maker just because it exists. Many things in life don't have makers but they exist "or come to existence to us" because of pre-existing things (sperm and egg equals a baby) type of thing. The baby wasn't created by god but people who don't know how a baby is formed they may think just because the baby exist, there must be a creator.
Unless you have already established beliefs that there should be some one who created everything on earth, just looking at a car, moon, or a piece of trash shows nothing in and of itself.
Actually, the signs you stated do show, prove, there is a God. Nothing x nobody does not equal everything. Everything has a designer. Please, post a few things that are not a design. Someone once said (forget who- sorry) that believing in evolution is like believing that a Tornado hitting a junk yard would leaving a fully functional 747 on the other side. I agree. Theories, regardless of how scientific they are, are still men guessing at what 'may have', 'could have', 'probably' did happen. IMHO
The point is, though, there doesn't need to be a maker regardless if you can see it or not.
Humans try to find origins to everything to give themselves grounding. It helps to know where you're from so you know where you are and where yo are going.
That is not the way the world works. Everything has always existed in one way or another. A car has always been a car we just didn't define it as a car until someone formed already existing parts and material together to shape what we now define as a car.
Things aren't created from no where. Space isn't created. The universe isn't created. Since everything is not created from thin air, there is no creator.
What we considered "created" is just already existed things put together to make something else we haven't seen or experienced before. We label it, define it, and wallah! A Car.
If the Biblical god really exists, and is not a figment of the imagination, why does it not make its presence clear without equivocation?
By not revealing its presence in a way that is irrefutable, it would be most unjust if unbelief resulted in dire consequences as some would have you believe.
Wasn't that supposedly part of the plan?Because the last time he showed up, they put him to death.
This is complete crap. You at least know someone who's relative of some sort worked in a car factory. You can go buy parts at the auto-parts store, which were made by companies employing human beings. You can drive past car manufacturing plants, you see and read news about the big brands - can know the names of the current CEO, CFO, COO of those companies - and you can know the new names of new people in those positions when those positions change hands. You can read the history and see photographs of people designing and building cars. In other words there is a vast array of physical, tangible evidence that people make cars - far more vast than any amount of real evidence God will ever grant us. Why do you think that is?Do we need to see the cars manufacturers to believe that they made the cars?
Our very existence, imo, the vast complexity of each and every part and molecule of our body, screams a designer. How is it, remotely, possible for a big nothing to make two separate entities (man, woman) that can interact with each other sexually and create a baby- we have perfectly compatible body parts. You'll never see an ocean wave hit the shoreline and leave the words 'John loves Mary', let alone a baby. Nature cannot create complexity. Yet, the human body, especially our brains, are the most complex system/computer on earth.This is complete crap. You at least know someone who's relative of some sort worked in a car factory. You can go buy parts at the auto-parts store, which were made by companies employing human beings. You can drive past car manufacturing plants, you see and read news about the big brands - can know the names of the current CEO, CFO, COO of those companies - and you can know the new names of new people in those positions when those positions change hands. You can read the history and see photographs of people designing and building cars. In other words there is a vast array of physical, tangible evidence that people make cars - far more vast than any amount of real evidence God will ever grant us. Why do you think that is?
The plan was to come down here and teach Oneness, the text is the result of what needed to happen, as many people really don't want to.Wasn't that supposedly part of the plan?
If the Biblical god really exists, and is not a figment of the imagination, why does it not make its presence clear without equivocation?
By not revealing its presence in a way that is irrefutable, it would be most unjust if unbelief resulted in dire consequences as some would have you believe.
Our very existence, imo, the vast complexity of each and every part and molecule of our body, screams a designer. How is it, remotely, possible for a big nothing to make two separate entities (man, woman) that can interact with each other sexually and create a baby- we have perfectly compatible body parts. You'll never see an ocean wave hit the shoreline and leave the words 'John loves Mary', let alone a baby. Nature cannot create complexity. Yet, the human body, especially our brains, are the most complex system/computer on earth.
Many people really don't want to what? Teach Oneness?The plan was to come down here and teach Oneness, the text is the result of what needed to happen, as many people really don't want to.
To follow and understand what is taught, not the person.Many people really don't want to what?