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POWER OF LOVE

WHO IS CHRIST?

  • NO ONE

    Votes: 4 50.0%
  • SON OF GOD

    Votes: 4 50.0%

  • Total voters
    8

cetakoradi

New Member
“Love is kind and patient, never jealous, boastful, proud, or rude. Love isn’t selfish or quick tempered. It doesn’t keep a record of wrongs that others do” (1 Corinthians 13:4-5 CEV). Dwelling on an offence for too long can cause bitterness, which in turn can lead to depression. The moment you permit anger to linger when someone offends
you, you’re on your way into depression. Depression is an extreme degree of sadness and it’s unhealthy; it could open the door of your life to devils and all kinds of diseases. It quenches the Spirit, creates a heaviness of the heart, destabilizes and slows spiritual growth, and eventually causes you to work out of the will of God.
You have the ability to conquer and overcome depression through God’s love. The Bible says, “And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God” (Romans 12:2). It’s not God’s will for you to be depressed and walk in bitterness. He’d rather have you function in love. God’s Word can build you so that your emotions will always function in the direction of love. When you’re functioning in God’s love, you wouldn’t ponder on the wrong that has been done to you, because your emotions will be completely dominated by the love of God. Love is a product of a transformed life. By this I mean the transformation that comes from a regenerated spirit. In 2 Timothy 1:7 the Bible says, “For God hath not given us the
spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.” Conquer every situation with love today. MORE @http://cevirtualchurch.org?_inv=cto1pn1
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
“Love is kind and patient, never jealous, boastful, proud, or rude. Love isn’t selfish or quick tempered. It doesn’t keep a record of wrongs that others do” (1 Corinthians 13:4-5 CEV). Dwelling on an offence for too long can cause bitterness, which in turn can lead to depression. The moment you permit anger to linger when someone offends
you, you’re on your way into depression. Depression is an extreme degree of sadness and it’s unhealthy; it could open the door of your life to devils and all kinds of diseases. It quenches the Spirit, creates a heaviness of the heart, destabilizes and slows spiritual growth, and eventually causes you to work out of the will of God.
You have the ability to conquer and overcome depression through God’s love. The Bible says, “And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God” (Romans 12:2). It’s not God’s will for you to be depressed and walk in bitterness. He’d rather have you function in love. God’s Word can build you so that your emotions will always function in the direction of love. When you’re functioning in God’s love, you wouldn’t ponder on the wrong that has been done to you, because your emotions will be completely dominated by the love of God. Love is a product of a transformed life. By this I mean the transformation that comes from a regenerated spirit. In 2 Timothy 1:7 the Bible says, “For God hath not given us the
spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.” Conquer every situation with love today. MORE @http://cevirtualchurch.org?_inv=cto1pn1


To answer your question, jesus is just like you and I. I put no person on a petalstool. I never call anyone "no one" and, if you are referring to jesus as being god because he is the son of god, scripture doesnt teach that. It does teach he is the so of man (given he is a savior) and the son of god (given he was sent by god) and he is human not a no body.
 

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
“Love is kind and patient, never jealous, boastful, proud, or rude. Love isn’t selfish or quick tempered. It doesn’t keep a record of wrongs that others do” (1 Corinthians 13:4-5 CEV). Dwelling on an offence for too long can cause bitterness, which in turn can lead to depression. The moment you permit anger to linger when someone offends
you, you’re on your way into depression. Depression is an extreme degree of sadness and it’s unhealthy; it could open the door of your life to devils and all kinds of diseases. It quenches the Spirit, creates a heaviness of the heart, destabilizes and slows spiritual growth, and eventually causes you to work out of the will of God.
You have the ability to conquer and overcome depression through God’s love. The Bible says, “And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God” (Romans 12:2). It’s not God’s will for you to be depressed and walk in bitterness. He’d rather have you function in love. God’s Word can build you so that your emotions will always function in the direction of love. When you’re functioning in God’s love, you wouldn’t ponder on the wrong that has been done to you, because your emotions will be completely dominated by the love of God. Love is a product of a transformed life. By this I mean the transformation that comes from a regenerated spirit. In 2 Timothy 1:7 the Bible says, “For God hath not given us the
spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.” Conquer every situation with love today. MORE @http://cevirtualchurch.org?_inv=cto1pn1

How does any of that prove Jesus is the Son of God?
 

cetakoradi

New Member
To answer your question, jesus is just like you and I. I put no person on a petalstool. I never call anyone "no one" and, if you are referring to jesus as being god because he is the son of god, scripture doesnt teach that. It does teach he is the so of man (given he is a savior) and the son of god (given he was sent by god) and he is human not a no body.
WOW THANKS FOR YOUR COMMENT WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF HIS DECLARATION IN JOHN 10:30 LOL
 

cetakoradi

New Member
How does any of that prove Jesus is the Son of God?
well the prophecy that came forth before the birth of Jesus also foretold His divinity: “Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.” It was Jesus who walked the streets of Galilee, as “Emmanuel – God with us.” When people saw Him, the mighty miracles and great signs and wonders that He did, notice what they said: “God has visited His people” (Luke 7:16). The Bible tells us that the fullness of the Godhead bodily dwells in Jesus. So, when you see Jesus, you wouldn’t need to look out for the Holy Spirit or the Father; He is the complete embodiment of Deity.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
How does any of that prove Jesus is the Son of God?


Please no caps.

It means that both jesus and his father share the same nature. Just as I share the zame blood with my parents so does he with hos father.

It means that jesus, who was sent by the father speaks for his father. So with whatever jesus says "also" is from the father.

It means that the father "AND" jesus are one.
not the father is jesus.

It mirrors that jesus is the visible image of an invisible god.

That means they both share the same nature of perfection but humans can look at jesus as to where they could not look at god. With that said, because jesus is in the flesh he is not his father. His father has specific attributes as defined in the OT and being flesh is not one of them.

Jesus never pointed to himself but to his father. If he and his father are one IN Your definition of one (excluding the "and") he would point to himself as the father but he does not.

My mother and I are one.
I am one with my ancestors
I am one with the spirits.

I have part of my mothers nature
I will be an ancestor one day
I am part of the environment and people

AND

I am my own self
My own flesh
My own thoughts
My own body.

Jesus being physically separate from his father doesnt mean he is by nature. It is technically saying "jesus is not the faher" nothing more.

Doesnt not change jesus role, him being a savior, his miracles, and all that. Its a technical fact in scripture that mainstream trinitarians overlook.

Thas fine but this debate has heen rashed. Look in the search. I think I have a theead with loads of scripture to support my fact.
 
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Nyingjé Tso

Tänpa Yungdrung zhab pä tän gyur jig
Vanakkam,

I do agree we should focus on trying to solve as much problems as possible with compassion, understanding and love... However I don't know who Jésus is nor how it is even related to all that :shrug:

Aum Namah Shivaya
 

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
well the prophecy that came forth before the birth of Jesus also foretold His divinity: “Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.” It was Jesus who walked the streets of Galilee, as “Emmanuel – God with us.” When people saw Him, the mighty miracles and great signs and wonders that He did, notice what they said: “God has visited His people” (Luke 7:16). The Bible tells us that the fullness of the Godhead bodily dwells in Jesus. So, when you see Jesus, you wouldn’t need to look out for the Holy Spirit or the Father; He is the complete embodiment of Deity.

What I mean is, how does your "Power of Love" treatise pertain to the question whether Jesus is the SON OF GOD?
 

cetakoradi

New Member
Please no caps.

It mea s that both jesus and his father share the same nature. Just as I zhare the zame blood with my parents so does he with hos father.

It means that jesus, whonwas sent by the father speaks for his father. So with whatever jesus says "also" is from the father.

It meanz that the father "Nd" jesus are one.
.not the father iz jesus.

It mirrors that jesus is the visible image of an invisible god.

That means they both share the same nature of perfection but humans can look at jesus as to where they could not look at god. With that said, because jesus is in the flesh he is not his father. His father has specific atteibutes as defined in the OT and being flesh is not one of them.

Jesus never poi ted to himself but to his father. If he and his father are one IN Your definition of one (excluding the "and") he would point to himself as the father but he does not.

My mother and i are one.
I am one with my ancestors
I am one with the spirits.

I have part of my mohers nature
I will be annancestor one day
I am part of the environment and people

AND

I am my own self
My own flesh
My own thoughts
My own body.

Jesus being physically separate from his father doesnt mean he is by nature. It is technically saying "jesus is not the faher" nothing more.

Doesnt not change jesusbrole, him being a savior, his kiracles, and all that. Its a technical fact in scripture that mainstream trinitarians overlook.

Hats fine but this debate has heen razhed. Look in the search. I think I have a theead with loads of scripture to support my fact.

you wouldn't mind signing up for online virtual church Christ Embassy Virtual Church Portal
 

cetakoradi

New Member
Vanakkam,

John 14:6-7
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him

“Is Jesus really God?” This is one question many still ask today. They believe He was a great prophet and teacher, but find it difficult to accept that He is Himself God, but He is. The Bible says “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God” (John 1:1). That “Word” that the Bible says “was God” became flesh – Jesus – and dwelt among us: “And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth” (John 1:14).

Now, the prophecy that came forth before the birth of Jesus also foretold His divinity: “Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.” It was Jesus who walked the streets of Galilee, as “Emmanuel – God with us.” When people saw Him, the mighty miracles and great signs and wonders that He did, notice what they said: “God has visited His people” (Luke 7:16). The Bible tells us that the fullness of the Godhead bodily dwells in Jesus. So, when you see Jesus, you wouldn’t need to look out for the Holy Spirit or the Father; He is the complete embodiment of Deity.

When Philip, one of the disciples asked Jesus to show them the Father, Jesus said to him, “…Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father…” (John 14:9). No wonder Colossians 1:19 says “…For it pleased the Father that in him should all fullness dwell.” Jesus is the outward expression of the Godhead. When we get to heaven, we won’t find the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost sitting on different thrones; we’ll only find one seated in the fullness of God on the throne, and His name is Jesus (Revelation 7:17).

So in celebrating Christmas, we’re celebrating the divinity of Jesus; His Lordship and rulership over our lives. He’s the joy of heaven and hope of the earth. He’s the Most High, the King of kings and the Lord of lords, who alone is worthy of all praise, worship and adoration. If you’re born again, happy are you, for “…ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power” (Colossians 2:10). You’re identified with the most awesome and sublime personality that there is.
 

Nyingjé Tso

Tänpa Yungdrung zhab pä tän gyur jig
Vanakkam,


I am sorry but as a Hindu, I do not know or believe in either the bible or Jésus. I do believe however that understanding, compassion, and the power of love that is spoken about is a potentiality of every humain being, regardless of religion or any other factor like this. There is no need to believe in Jésus or Allah or Shiva to be a good person, religion is not mandatory to feel loved and express this positive power and influence in the world and on others around us who need it most.
Aum Namah Shivaya
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member

You forgot to quote me.

Jesus is not god the father.

Pay attention to the words: and, also, "is one" (one person cant be one of himself), of, as, in, and from.

It is in scripture blunt and plain as day a kid would know.

Your belief is your belief. Not all beliefs are based on fact just as we like them to be. The bible "explains" about jesus love.

Can you experience love without the bible?

The bible "explains" the Relation- ship between him and his father

Do you believe someone can have a relationship with himself?

Was jesus pointing to the sky when he addressed the father?

No one can look at god in the face. If christianity is based on jewish beliefs, the facts are dead wrong. Its a contradiction to what jesus taught and the jews believe.

Do you believe jesus or his disciples?
 
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Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
@cetakoradi

Another question for you. If you have never hear, read, nor seen a bible, would you still experience jesus?

If not, how is that possible?

If so, who is jesus to You without the bible?
 

Nyingjé Tso

Tänpa Yungdrung zhab pä tän gyur jig
Vanakkam,


I'm sorry, the term is accurate in this case: I do not believe in the bible or Jésus.

I do not understand it either, but it's not a concern nor it changes anything in my beliefs.

Aum Namah Shivaya
 
“Love is kind and patient, never jealous, boastful, proud, or rude. Love isn’t selfish or quick tempered. It doesn’t keep a record of wrongs that others do” (1 Corinthians 13:4-5 CEV). Dwelling on an offence for too long can cause bitterness, which in turn can lead to depression. The moment you permit anger to linger when someone offends
you, you’re on your way into depression. Depression is an extreme degree of sadness and it’s unhealthy; it could open the door of your life to devils and all kinds of diseases. It quenches the Spirit, creates a heaviness of the heart, destabilizes and slows spiritual growth, and eventually causes you to work out of the will of God.
You have the ability to conquer and overcome depression through God’s love. The Bible says, “And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God” (Romans 12:2). It’s not God’s will for you to be depressed and walk in bitterness. He’d rather have you function in love. God’s Word can build you so that your emotions will always function in the direction of love. When you’re functioning in God’s love, you wouldn’t ponder on the wrong that has been done to you, because your emotions will be completely dominated by the love of God. Love is a product of a transformed life. By this I mean the transformation that comes from a regenerated spirit. In 2 Timothy 1:7 the Bible says, “For God hath not given us the
spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.” Conquer every situation with love today. MORE @http://cevirtualchurch.org?_inv=cto1pn1

If every one who called themselves Christian had realized any of the ideals recorded in scripture, the world would be a very difference place. Unfortunately that has yet to happen. When God finally reveals the 'how' to inculcate those virtues into the human condition, I will agree that true religion has started.
 
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