Jerry Falwell Jr. to head Trump education task force.

[fantome profane]

Evangelical Jerry Falwell Jr. to head Trump education task force < -- source

This "task force" has been set up to eliminate a lot of the regulations that govern for-profit "colleges" (like the so-called "Trump University") and provide protections for students. The regulations they intend to eliminate are those regulations that protect students from fraud, that protect students in the event that the schools that go out of business, regulations that place restrictions on how these schools can use endowment or donations. They also intend to eliminate restrictions concerning how these for-profit schools can advertise and recruit students.

These things are not being done for the benefit of students, or improve the state of education. The goal here quite clearly is to help con-men like Donald Trump to bilk people out of their money.

Jerry Falwell’s New Higher-Ed Task Force Could Take Cues From a Private-College Association’s Playbook < --- additional information.

 

[Kemosloby]

It looks like separation of school and state is coming. Since it became such a political and anti-religious institution. Couldn't stick to reading, writing and arithmetic.

 

[fantome profane]

It looks like separation of school and state is coming. Since it became such a political and anti-religious institution. Couldn't stick to reading, writing and arithmetic.

Oh but these "colleges" will still be eligible to receive federal money, they just will no longer be accountable for what the do with it.

 

[Kemosloby]

Oh but these "colleges" will still be eligible to receive federal money, they just will no longer be accountable for what the do with it.

You say "colleges" but we're talking about k-12 ? An alternative to public education?

 

[fantome profane]

You say "colleges" but we're talking about k-12 ? An alternative to public education?

no, that is not what we are talking about. This is a task force for higher education. This is all about colleges, universities etc. If you had actually read or even skimmed the article you would have understood that. Even if you just read what I said in the OP you would have understood this.

 

[Kemosloby]

no, that is not what we are talking about. This is a task force for higher education. This is all about colleges, universities etc. If you had actually read or even skimmed the article you would have understood that. Even if you just read what I said in the OP you would have understood this.

Ah. Well the girl in the video doesn't sound any more educated than the average teen on facebook. Assuming she popped out of a lib dem college, any federal assistance at those schools would be a waste also.

 

[pearl]

Falwell has been particularly interested in curbing rules that require schools to investigate campus sexual assault under Title IX, a federal law that bans discrimination in education.

Falwell also introduced Trump before he spoke at Liberty University last year, telling the thousands of students assembled that he seems similarities between Trump and his televangelist father.
Now that's a scary thought.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

I don't have high hopes for education run by people who believe the earth is 6,000 years old.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Ah. Well the girl in the video doesn't sound any more educated than the average teen on facebook. Assuming she popped out of a lib dem college, any federal assistance at those schools would be a waste also.

Any chance of addressing the OP if you're planning on posting in the thread, please.

 

[esmith]

Falwell has been particularly interested in curbing rules that require schools to investigate campus sexual assault under Title IX, a federal law that bans discrimination in education.

Falwell also introduced Trump before he spoke at Liberty University last year, telling the thousands of students assembled that he seems similarities between Trump and his televangelist father.
Now that's a scary thought.

I don't see the problem with the statement on investigating campus sexual assault issues. If you read the article you will see the following:

The Liberty University head believes on-campus sexual assault investigations are best left to police and prosecutors, Stevens said.

If I remember correctly hasn't there been reports of colleges and universities basically sweeping accusations of sexual assault under the rug?
In other words treat the issue as a crime not bad publicity for the school or hurting their athletic program.

 

[Tiapan]

The solution is simple every american works hard and earns a billion dollars so you can then pay for the services that would be free in most other countries. Of course every american will make a billion dollars in a few years after all Trumpski did it.

Cheers

 

[YmirGF]

If the panel he intends to head is composed mainly of secular thinkers, this may not be too bad. If there is an over abundance of religious thinkers this could be very, very bad...

 

[fantome profane]

f the panel he intends to head is composed mainly of secular thinkers

I think it is more likely to be composed mainly of unicorns and dragons.

 

[YmirGF]

I think it is more likely to be composed mainly of unicorns and dragons.

Serious question. Can they really impose any religious input into the schools system given how the courts have already dealt with this on numerous occasions? Wouldn't anything overtly religious be automatically struck down?

 

[Jeremiahcp]

I don't see the problem with the statement on investigating campus sexual assault issues. If you read the article you will see the following:

If I remember correctly hasn't there been reports of colleges and universities basically sweeping accusations of sexual assault under the rug?
In other words treat the issue as a crime not bad publicity for the school or hurting their athletic program.

"In other words treat the issue as a crime not bad publicity for the school or hurting their athletic program."

I am not sure what school you are referring, but here in Montana it is already treated as a crime, and the police are notified asap, with a campus wide alert to all students if something happens.

In fact now-a-days all students, nation wide are required to take online courses on sexual harassment and sexual assault. That informs them how to identify it and what to do if they see it.

I kind of get the impression you are making a sweeping generalization.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

Serious question. Can they really impose any religious input into the schools system given how the courts have already dealt with this on numerous occasions? Wouldn't anything overtly religious be automatically struck down?

Never put it past the Christians to find a new way to incorporated their religion into our state and government.

But really with higher education I do not think that is a big concern. The students are considered adults and separation of church and state is not as strongly enforced, as the students can choose their own class schedule, and if they don't want anything religious then they don't have to take it. The only problem I could see is if they tried to push religious classes as part of the core requirement, but I don't think that is something they could actually do.

What I would be more worried about is making sure future students get a good education that will actually be useful for them in today's society. I would also worry over the misdirection of any federal funding to schools that are not real colleges.

 

[esmith]

"In other words treat the issue as a crime not bad publicity for the school or hurting their athletic program."

I am not sure what school you are referring, but here in Montana it is already treated as a crime, and the police are notified asap, with a campus wide alert to all students if something happens.

In fact now-a-days all students, nation wide are required to take online courses on sexual harassment and sexual assault. That informs them how to identify it and what to do if they see it.

I kind of get the impression you are making a sweeping generalization.

for one example
An imperfect process: How campuses deal with sexual assault - CNN.com
another
http://invw.org/sexual-assault/
and another
Feds investigating how UB handled student’s sexual assault allegation - The Buffalo News
I could keep going but I think you get the idea.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

for one example
An imperfect process: How campuses deal with sexual assault - CNN.com
another
http://invw.org/sexual-assault/
and another
Feds investigating how UB handled student’s sexual assault allegation - The Buffalo News
I could keep going but I think you get the idea.

"I could keep going but I think you get the idea"

I see nothing about Montana. I do believe what I accused you of was make a sweeping generalization; which you are.

 

[esmith]

"I could keep going but I think you get the idea"

I see nothing about Montana. I do believe what I accused you of was make a sweeping generalization; which you are.

So, where is your opinion that the investigation of sexual assault anywhere should be conducted by local law enforcement.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

So, where is your opinion that the investigation of sexual assault anywhere should be conducted by local law enforcement.

What? I am not sure what you are asking.