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Which God is truthful?

paarsurrey

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Which God is truthful?
This is an internal subject of the believers from which-ever God/gods they select for themselves on their own choice and responsibility.
Dawkins and the like are sure laymen on Revealed Religion or God. Please
The believers of Revealed Religions consider the non-revealed religions, with the same group Atheism or the like, as superstitious, denying reality/Truth.
Unless of course if they justify their "no-god"/many gods position/no-position with positive and reasonable arguments without reference to the believers.
Right? Please

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Dawnofhope

Dawnofhope

Non-Proselytizing Baha'i
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paarsurrey said:
Which God is truthful?
This is an internal subject of the believers from which-ever God/gods they select for themselves on their own choice and responsibility.
Dawkins and the like are sure laymen on Revealed Religion or God. Please
The believers of Revealed Religions consider the non-revealed religions, with the same group Atheism or the like, as superstitious, denying reality/Truth.
Unless of course if they justify their "no-god"/many gods position/no-position with positive and reasonable arguments without reference to the believers.
Right?
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Baha'is believe that God is an unknowable essence and the best way we can know God's will is through His chosen Messengers or Manifestations. These include the Abrahamic Faiths but also Buddhism and Hinduism. When religions become old or they no longer have reliable sacred texts to refer to the light becomes obscured. Sometimes the light is so badly distorted it is better to have no religion than one that causes war and disharmony.
 
paarsurrey

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
adrianhindes said:
Baha'is believe that God is an unknowable essence and the best way we can know God's will is through His chosen Messengers or Manifestations. These include the Abrahamic Faiths but also Buddhism and Hinduism. When religions become old or they no longer have reliable sacred texts to refer to the light becomes obscured. Sometimes the light is so badly distorted it is better to have no religion than one that causes war and disharmony.
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"God is an unknowable essence and the best way we can know God's will is through His chosen Messengers or Manifestations. These include the Abrahamic Faiths but also Buddhism and Hinduism. When religions become old or they no longer have reliable sacred texts to refer to the light becomes obscured."

I agree with one on what I have colored in magenta. Please
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Reggie Miller

Reggie Miller

Well-Known Member
John 14:6
Jesus told him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me.
 
paarsurrey

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
wizanda said:
There is only One; then there is lots of confusion within human understanding, of what has been revealed to them. :innocent:
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There is no confusion.
"there is no doubt in it"
"This is a perfect Book; there is no doubt in it; it is a guidance for the righteous,".
I just explained how to find Him who is Evident to the seekers of Him.
Regards
 
Deathbydefault

Deathbydefault

Apistevist Asexual Atheist
paarsurrey said:
Which God is truthful?
This is an internal subject of the believers from which-ever God/gods they select for themselves on their own choice and responsibility.
Dawkins and the like are sure laymen on Revealed Religion or God. Please
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What does it take to not be a laymen on this subject?

paarsurrey said:
The believers of Revealed Religions consider the non-revealed religions, with the same group Atheism or the like, as superstitious, denying reality/Truth.
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It's sad that you're probably right about that, for the most part anyways.

paarsurrey said:
Unless of course if they justify their "no-god"/many gods position/no-position with positive and reasonable arguments without reference to the believers.
Right? Please
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Ah, but aren't quite a few of the arguments from our side directed straight toward the god in question?

Also, I don't have to justify my disbelief in whichever god.
Even if I did, I'm not going to.
 
Deathbydefault

Deathbydefault

Apistevist Asexual Atheist
paarsurrey said:
No value is to be given because one is specialized in another subject "say science".
Regards
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I don't understand your direction here.
Are you saying that someone specialized in science can't also specialize in revealed religion?
If so, what do you base that off of?
 
wizanda

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
paarsurrey said:
There is no confusion.
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9:97 The wandering Arabs are more hard in disbelief and hypocrisy, and more likely to be ignorant of the limits which Allah hath revealed unto His messenger. And Allah is Knower, Wise. :innocent:
 
wizanda

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
paarsurrey said:
So, there is no confusion.
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I'm having to re-read the Quran currently to assess why there is so many weird things Muslims come out with in comparison to all other text globally, I've never known as many faulty conclusions as the Muslims of today have:

  1. They think paradise which is referring to here, as the Garden of Eden is Heaven...Thus all this rubbish about drinking in Heaven, virgins with perfect breasts, etc is all talking about the Messianic age.
  2. The Quran tells you to accept all religious books globally, and not to make distinction, thus Islam should be more like Bahá'í.
  3. It clearly says Yeshua will be put to death, and that everyone should follow his teachings, if they want to be in Paradise.
  4. That there are other Rasul (messengers) after Muhammad, that shall come from among the people, and to be a Muslim we are to accept them.
  5. That we're supposed to expect a new earth, and creation i.e. the Messianic age/Satya Yuga.
  6. If people wish you peace or greet you kindly, you're supposed to match it or give a better greeting, not turn around and say, "you're not a Muslim so i won't greet you properly".
  7. That the fire is to come here, like prophesied in all other religions, that on the Day of the Lord there shall be a Holy Fire that shall cleanse the earth.
  8. etc......
So don't even start on no confusion; what I'm finding is a load of argumentive hypocrites, who have gone against the worlds religions so much, they don't follow the Quran. :(
 
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wizanda

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Onyx said:
Can someone please explain how blind faith in prophets and old books isn't just as superstitious as anything else?
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Yes can show it, there is a very complex riddle across the whole of time, showing that clearly something outside of time influenced some of the prophets.

The proof of it, is that the outcome of numerous precise prophecies exists in the form of Christianity, where they follow all the lies, as predicted to the letter. :innocent:
 
paarsurrey

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Onyx said:
Can someone please explain how blind faith in prophets and old books isn't just as superstitious as anything else? Atheism is superstitious? That makes no sense to me at all.
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It is based on Revelation, it is not superstition.
While Atheism is neither based on Revelation nor on science.
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