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Looking for Scripture Explicitly Forbidding Same-Sex Marriage

Skwim

Veteran Member
It's no secret that according the Bible god made woman for man, and that they should be together.

Genesis 2:22-24 NIV
22
Then the LORD God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.
23 The man said, “This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called ‘woman,’ for she was taken out of man.”
24 That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh.​

Or that while god doesn't like the idea of men and women having sexual relations, because he created them with sexual urges, it's best that they be married.

1 Corinthians 7:1-2 NIV
"1 . . .It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” 2 But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband.​

However, there are many people who never marry and seem to be quite accepted within the Christian faith. So marriage doesn't appear to be an absolute necessity in Christian theology and in practice. It's not a deal breaker. People don't have to get married to be good Christians.

This seems to be the sum and substance of God's regard for marriage.

1) It's not mandatory.

2) But does serves to forestall "sexual immorality"​

And while the Bible says God doesn't like homosexual activities He doesn't seem to condemn people for being homosexuals. Like wise, while He doesn't like the idea of heterosexuals having sex, (1 Corinthians 7:1-2 ) He doesn't condemn them for being heterosexuals.

So God doesn't really like people having sexual relations be they homosexual or heterosexual; however, He is willing to allow heterosexuals to indulge themselves if they marry one another.

As for homosexuals and their sexual urges________________ nothing! Nothing is said one way or the other about their sexual predicament. My suspicion is that in the scheme of things homosexuals just aren't significant enough to bother mentioning. HOWEVER, it is said in 1 Corinthians 7:8-9

8 Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do.
9 But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
which, in addressing unmarried heterosexuals, says that for the sake of one's self sexual control it is better to marry. Marriage, therefore, is treated as nothing more than a means of controlling sexual passion, which I think would reasonably apply to homosexuals as well. Marriage is but an accommodation.

In any case, unless I've missed something, . . .

There's nothing in the Bible specifically about homosexuals marrying
There's nothing in the Bible specifically about homosexuals not marrying.

The Bible is silent. So, just where do people get the idea that God is against same-sex marriage? Where is the scripture that explicitly forbids same-sex marriage?


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Rival

Si m'ait Dieus
Staff member
Premium Member
Leviticus 18:22? Homosexuals cannot consummate a marriage, ergo they cannot marry.
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
Some of these NT verses are contextual.

'not to marry' is always contextual to discipleship, this is like talking to ''specific people''. not the general pop.
Disciples were literally ''Discipling'', it could mean traveling around, etc. There is practicality to all these verses, if you know the context
 

Rival

Si m'ait Dieus
Staff member
Premium Member
Some of these NT verses are contextual.

'not to marry' is always contextual to discipleship, this is like talking to ''specific people''. not the general pop.
Disciples were literally ''Discipling'', it could mean traveling around, etc. There is practicality to all these verses, if you know the context
I'm not a Christian but pretty sure 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 says that sodomites will not enter into the Kingdom of Heaven. The word is literally in Greek 'men who have sex with men' and is made of two Greek words anthropos (man) coitus (sex).
 

GodsVoice

Active Member
It's no secret that according the Bible god made woman for man, and that they should be together.

Genesis 2:22-24 NIV
22
Then the LORD God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.
23 The man said, “This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called ‘woman,’ for she was taken out of man.”
24 That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh.​

Or that while god doesn't like the idea of men and women having sexual relations, because he created them with sexual urges, it's best that they be married.

1 Corinthians 7:1-2 NIV
"1 . . .It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” 2 But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband.​

However, there are many people who never marry and seem to be quite accepted within the Christian faith. So marriage doesn't appear to be an absolute necessity in Christian theology and in practice. It's not a deal breaker. People don't have to get married to be good Christians.

This seems to be the sum and substance of God's regard for marriage.

1) It's not mandatory.

2) But does serves to forestall "sexual immorality"​

And while the Bible says God doesn't like homosexual activities He doesn't seem to condemn people for being homosexuals. Like wise, while He doesn't like the idea of heterosexuals having sex, (1 Corinthians 7:1-2 ) He doesn't condemn them for being heterosexuals.

So God doesn't really like people having sexual relations be they homosexual or heterosexual; however, He is willing to allow heterosexuals to indulge themselves if they marry one another.

As for homosexuals and their sexual urges________________ nothing! Nothing is said one way or the other about their sexual predicament. My suspicion is that in the scheme of things homosexuals just aren't significant enough to bother mentioning. HOWEVER, it is said in 1 Corinthians 7:8-9

8 Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do.
9 But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
which, in addressing unmarried heterosexuals, says that for the sake of one's self sexual control it is better to marry. Marriage, therefore, is treated as nothing more than a means of controlling sexual passion, which I think would reasonably apply to homosexuals as well. Marriage is but an accommodation.

In any case, unless I've missed something, . . .

There's nothing in the Bible specifically about homosexuals marrying
There's nothing in the Bible specifically about homosexuals not marrying.

The Bible is silent. So, just where do people get the idea that God is against same-sex marriage? Where is the scripture that explicitly forbids same-sex marriage?


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The only way to learn why homosexuality exists is to listen to the voice of the Lord and obey ALL His commandments. Then He will explain that ONE man was created both male and female and that all the offspring of the FIRST man ( Adam, the male flesh ) and woman ( Eve, the female flesh ) only got ONE body instead of two bodies of flesh. Cain and Abel were not born with their created mates because Cain was made both male and female in ONE body. Abel was not born with his mate, either. When they married another body, they were committing adultery and this is the reason no flesh of man today can obey this commandment, "Thou shalt not commit adultery". This commandment will be obeyed in the next generation when each created man will wake up in two bodies. One body will be a male and the other body will be a female.

This also explains why some male looking bodies have sex with other bodies who appear to look more like a male instead of a female.
 

Rival

Si m'ait Dieus
Staff member
Premium Member
The only way to learn why homosexuality exists is to listen to the voice of the Lord and obey ALL His commandments. Then He will explain that ONE man was created both male and female and that all the offspring of the FIRST man ( Adam, the male flesh ) and woman ( Eve, the female flesh ) only got ONE body instead of two bodies of flesh. Cain and Abel were not born with their created mates because Cain was made both male and female in ONE body. Abel was not born with his mate, either. When they married another body, they were committing adultery and this is the reason no flesh of man today can obey this commandment, "Thou shalt not commit adultery". This commandment will be obeyed in the next generation when each created man will wake up in two bodies. One body will be a male and the other body will be a female.

This also explains why some male looking bodies have sex with other bodies who appear to look more like a male instead of a female.
This is rubbish. Why would God give people commandments they couldn't possibly fulfil and then punish them for it?
 

Deathbydefault

Apistevist Asexual Atheist
This is rubbish. Why would God give people commandments they couldn't possibly fulfil and then punish them for it?

Cause it's an S...

That or it hit its own laced up super-powered blunt one night and spewed out our current situation, then fell asleep and forgot the next day.
 

Rival

Si m'ait Dieus
Staff member
Premium Member
Cause it's an S...
I can't think of a better explanation that hits straight to the point like that one.
That or it hit its own laced up super-powered blunt one morning and spewed out our current situation, then fell asleep and forgot the next day.
I don't understand what you're saying here.
 

Deathbydefault

Apistevist Asexual Atheist
I don't understand what you're saying here.

I spewed all that out too fast and went back to edit it.
But I saw your question and couldn't not answer, even though it wasn't thrown in my direction.

I basically said that a god who would give out impossible commands and punishment for inability to follow through is either a sadist or an idiot.... or it could be both, who am I to say.
 

Rival

Si m'ait Dieus
Staff member
Premium Member
I spewed all that out too fast and went back to edit it.
But I saw your question and couldn't not answer, even though it wasn't thrown in my direction.

I basically said that a god who would give out impossible commands and punishment for inability to follow through is either a sadist or an idiot.... or it could be both, who am I to say.
I was refuting that premise though: God does not do that. GodsVoice seems to have strange ideas about what constitutes adultery and that no-one can follow 'Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery', which is baloney.
 
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Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
It's no secret that according the Bible god made woman for man, and that they should be together.

Genesis 2:22-24 NIV
22
Then the LORD God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.
23 The man said, “This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called ‘woman,’ for she was taken out of man.”
24 That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh.​

Or that while god doesn't like the idea of men and women having sexual relations, because he created them with sexual urges, it's best that they be married.

1 Corinthians 7:1-2 NIV
"1 . . .It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” 2 But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband.​

However, there are many people who never marry and seem to be quite accepted within the Christian faith. So marriage doesn't appear to be an absolute necessity in Christian theology and in practice. It's not a deal breaker. People don't have to get married to be good Christians.

This seems to be the sum and substance of God's regard for marriage.

1) It's not mandatory.

2) But does serves to forestall "sexual immorality"​

And while the Bible says God doesn't like homosexual activities He doesn't seem to condemn people for being homosexuals. Like wise, while He doesn't like the idea of heterosexuals having sex, (1 Corinthians 7:1-2 ) He doesn't condemn them for being heterosexuals.

So God doesn't really like people having sexual relations be they homosexual or heterosexual; however, He is willing to allow heterosexuals to indulge themselves if they marry one another.

As for homosexuals and their sexual urges________________ nothing! Nothing is said one way or the other about their sexual predicament. My suspicion is that in the scheme of things homosexuals just aren't significant enough to bother mentioning. HOWEVER, it is said in 1 Corinthians 7:8-9

8 Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do.
9 But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
which, in addressing unmarried heterosexuals, says that for the sake of one's self sexual control it is better to marry. Marriage, therefore, is treated as nothing more than a means of controlling sexual passion, which I think would reasonably apply to homosexuals as well. Marriage is but an accommodation.

In any case, unless I've missed something, . . .

There's nothing in the Bible specifically about homosexuals marrying
There's nothing in the Bible specifically about homosexuals not marrying.

The Bible is silent. So, just where do people get the idea that God is against same-sex marriage? Where is the scripture that explicitly forbids same-sex marriage?

It's not that complicated. Marriage is God's arrangement. He brought the woman to the man and Jesus said that "what God has yoked together, no man could put apart". God performed the first marriage. It is a serious commitment.

In Israel, a woman betrothed to a man was "married", not in a ceremony at the synagogue, but by the simple act of the man taking his fiance to the home he had prepared for her. Walking from her house to his, the road was lined with well-wishers and taking his wife home was how they became "married".

God would not yoke a same sex couple. If they want to commit fornication in an unmarried state, that is up to them.
Sexual sin is sexual sin regardless of your gender. A married couple in a committed relationship is the best atmosphere in which to raise children. Same sex couples cannot naturally produce children.
 

GodsVoice

Active Member
This is rubbish. Why would God give people commandments they couldn't possibly fulfil and then punish them for it?

God does what He planned and He doesn't care what you think. You will think differently when all flesh has been killed and Satan and the Beast are deleted from the program.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
God does what He planned and He doesn't care what you think. You will think differently when all flesh has been killed and Satan and the Beast are deleted from the program.

Why would an all-powerful deity have an reason to 'plan' anything?


Of course we all know why God created Adam before Eve. He didn't want all the advice on how to create Adam.
 

GodsVoice

Active Member
Why would an all-powerful deity have an reason to 'plan' anything?

All visible images with defined borders have to be planned. Random 0's and 1's don't make bodies as intricate as the human body unless those 0's and 1's are arranged by a programmer with a plan.


Of course we all know why God created Adam before Eve. He didn't want all the advice on how to create Adam.

Did you know women were made from men? Eve didn’t care for this information either and ever since then, women have been trying to liberate themselves from men.
 

knh777

Member
How about two or three or by the chapter? Fyi whenever this becomes a force into the homes of neighbors and communities judgment is AT THE DOOR!

1 Corinthians 6
9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,
10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.
11 Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.

1 Tim 10
8 But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully,
9 realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers 10 and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, 11 according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted.

See Sodom and Gomorrah

Jude 1
6 And angels who did not keep their own domain, but abandoned their proper abode, He has kept in eternal bonds under darkness for the judgment of the great day,
7 just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire.
8 Yet in the same way these men, also by dreaming, defile the flesh, and reject authority, and revile angelic majesties.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
All visible images with defined borders have to be planned. Random 0's and 1's don't make bodies as intricate as the human body unless those 0's and 1's are arranged by a programmer with a plan.

But an omniscient Deity would also have to include randomness in It's make-up.




Did you know women were made from men? Eve didn’t care for this information either and ever since then, women have been trying to liberate themselves from men.
 

Rival

Si m'ait Dieus
Staff member
Premium Member
So a marriage is not a marriage unless the married couple have sex?
Yes. That's how it's always worked. That's why it's called 'consummation' it consummates the marriage, makes it valid.
 
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