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Hard times make magicians

Sutekh

Priest of Odin
Premium Member
I find this to be awesome, you, a Satanist are in a position to be a positive influence on young minds. :smileycat: I was a boy scout for about a year when I was 12. I also understand about reputations. At three places of employment I was rather open about my beliefs, I didn't wear them on my sleeve but my co-workers knew about me. I was well respected because I did my job and I was a friend to all my co-workers. However, at a couple of other places a was fired for being too open about my beliefs, I think it just depends on the people you work with. At this time I am self-employed so that works out good. I look upon my Self as a temple of Set, and my allegiance and dedication to my own Setian Being and to the Prince of Darkness far outweighs what mundane society might think about me. But the next time I might go to work for another company I will be keeping my beliefs and politics to myself. ;)

My scout troop isn't deeply religious to that extent. However we have perhaps Protestants and Catholics among my scout troop. But I tend to be careful even if I make jokes such as saying the "Prince of Darkness," I once made a funny joke and a lot of the people actually liked my joke I have a scout master named Crain and I of course did this one time joke by saying "Hail Crain," or talking about the "Church of Crain,"[emoji38] but I try my very best on not to take things to far. But I occasionally like to make some jokes on terminologies that I perhaps know, or perhaps maybe some dark jokes in a good and funny way.[emoji56]
 

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
I find this to be awesome, you, a Satanist are in a position to be a positive influence on young minds. :smileycat: I was a boy scout for about a year when I was 12. I also understand about reputations. At three places of employment I was rather open about my beliefs, I didn't wear them on my sleeve but my co-workers knew about me. I was well respected because I did my job and I was a friend to all my co-workers. However, at a couple of other places a was fired for being too open about my beliefs, I think it just depends on the people you work with. At this time I am self-employed so that works out good. I look upon my Self as a temple of Set, and my allegiance and dedication to my own Setian Being and to the Prince of Darkness far outweighs what mundane society might think about me. But the next time I might go to work for another company I will be keeping my beliefs and politics to myself. ;)

I also have found my influence on mind, young and adult alike, awesome. The secret and irony of it is exhilarating as well. I was semi open at my projection job, but in the world of social work I have to be super careful not to discuss it directly. Luckily, as Webb said, the Setian can discuss their religion in entirely normal terms, saving the esotericism for initiates.
 

Adramelek

Setian
Premium Member
This is a very useful and important thread. My time as an addict to opioid pain meds was the worst, my recovery took years. I never went to a rehabilitation facility or anything like that; it was all me and my families support. Like I said, there were times when I directed my anger at Set and everybody else, but I never blamed him or anybody else for my plight. I knew it was all my own fault and I took full responsibility. It was through years of shear force of mind and will, self-determination that I eventually overpowered my addiction and suicidal thoughts and tendencies. Now days I may once in a while want the high of an opioid, but I ignore it easily because I no longer need it. Never underestimate the power of your own mind and will to heal your body and Self, that was the true Magick that healed me and overpowered my "demons" of addiction and depression. :smilecat:

"That which does not kill you will make you stronger."
 
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1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
This is a very useful and important thread. My time as an addict to opioid pain meds was the worst, my recovery took years. I never went to a rehabilitation facility or anything like that, it was all me and my families support. Like I said, there were times when I directed my anger at Set and everybody else, but I never blamed him or anybody else for my plight. I knew it was all my own fault and I took full responsibility. It was through years of shear force of mind and will, self-determination that I eventually overpowered my addiction and suicidal thoughts and tendencies. Now days I may once in a while want the high of an opioid, but I ignore it easily because I no longer need it. Never underestimate the power of your own mind and will to heal your body and Self, that was the true Magick that healed me and overpowered my "demons" of addiction and depression. :smilecat:

"That which does not kill you will make you stronger."

This is shockingly familiar.
 

Kapalika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I think hard times make spiritual progress harder, since your attention is split... and if your basic needs are not met you can't really be healthy spiritually unless you are waay above what most people are. A lot of people can't handle it.

Personally I've never had any loss of faith or anything like that. I've went 'dormant' so to speak from lack of interest or just being busy with worldly things... but I've always craved it in the end.
 

Sutekh

Priest of Odin
Premium Member
My problem with Magick in general is not having the desire as much, I may at times feel as if a dark force is communicating within me. At times I may try to release that force and seek requests or questions. What is hard for me for the most is learning and practicing Magick. Even though I follow a simple system of Magick I have been getting into Sethanic Magick in general. I view myself as an initiate, I am still learning. At times I might forget to write things down on my journal of my certain rituals. I realize that I live in a subjective universe in my own mind. At times I may think subjectively and act objectively.
 

Adramelek

Setian
Premium Member
Speaking of hard times; last Monday, 10-31-2016, I broke my right foot while helping my brother unload a 600 lb roll of carpet padding from the back of a truck. Well, clumsy me, I lost my footing and fell backwards on my back, the roll of pad landed on my knee and right foot, fracturing my foot in three places. After the initial shock and agony of pain, I said, "oh hell there goes my Halloween, all f**kked up!"

After I found out I had a compound fracture in my foot, I said, "oh hell the next 7-8 weeks are going to be all f**kked up!" I am trying to take my foot injury in stride - "shytt happens", but, as a musician (piano/guitar) what if I had broken either one of my hands? I guarantee things would be different, as my lively-hood would possibly be shattered. Hence, this incident has raised my awareness of the fragileness of the human body and has prompted me to take extra consideration and to be more mindful of physical activities that may jeopardize my hands. No paranoia mind you, just a little extra mindfulness.
 
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1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
I often ponder the frailty of the human body, and ponder the almost infinite things that can go wrong. Perhaps the worst aspect is so much is beyond our control to avoid, we can often only manage the situation. It makes me laugh to hear some say how "perfectly designed" we are while keeping such ideas in mind. At the same time, from an evolutionary perspective we should curl up in a bubble and never do anything risky. Throughout my life I've struggled with random, paralyzing fear of the "what ifs", but in the end what's important is learning how to manage and adapt. At least with magic it can be twisted to suit one in ways, or seen as a chance for growth. But even that's usually only in hindsight.

I see it like the struggle between Horus and Set. The one thing Horus has on Set is the power of determinism.
 

Aštra’el

Aštara, Blade of Aštoreth
I don't believe its possible to see into the future (well maybe it is)

The following is something I recently wrote in another topic, about my own experiences with visions and seeing into the future.

"I experience visions often even in a waking, conscious state. It is a common occurance among those who embrace the power of Creation, such as artists, inventors, developers, engineers, architects... even the founders of religions.

I often see things before they happen. I imagine things, visualize things, contruct and design things in my mind, then create things and see things manifest into this world according to my Will.


The powers of Creation extend from creating works of art, to undergoing vast experiences of foresight and mastering the ability to manipulate and shape the world around you in accordance with your Will."
 

Adramelek

Setian
Premium Member
"I experience visions often even in a waking, conscious state. It is a common occurance among those who embrace the power of Creation, such as artists, inventors, developers, engineers, architects... even the founders of religions.

I often see things before they happen. I imagine things, visualize things, contruct and design things in my mind, then create things and see things manifest into this world according to my Will.

The powers of Creation extend from creating works of art, to undergoing vast experiences of foresight and mastering the ability to manipulate and shape the world around you in accordance with your Will."

I will admit that there have been times throughout my life when I seem to have mentally seen a step beyond into a future event/happening. Was it happenstance? I am not sure about a lot of things; in many instances my mind is always open.
 
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Sutekh

Priest of Odin
Premium Member
This is a very useful and important thread. My time as an addict to opioid pain meds was the worst, my recovery took years. I never went to a rehabilitation facility or anything like that; it was all me and my families support. Like I said, there were times when I directed my anger at Set and everybody else, but I never blamed him or anybody else for my plight. I knew it was all my own fault and I took full responsibility. It was through years of shear force of mind and will, self-determination that I eventually overpowered my addiction and suicidal thoughts and tendencies. Now days I may once in a while want the high of an opioid, but I ignore it easily because I no longer need it. Never underestimate the power of your own mind and will to heal your body and Self, that was the true Magick that healed me and overpowered my "demons" of addiction and depression. :smilecat:

"That which does not kill you will make you stronger."


Well I could say I am pretty lucky that Iv'e never done any hard drugs in my life, except maybe just the weed. Like you, I never went to any rehab or support group. It was a hard decision to make on quitting the weed, since I discovered the career I want to go to would drug test you. From being put into a ghetto environment of gang wannabes that are heavy dope fiends, I could proudly say that I was able to finally quit my usage. A lot of these people that Iv'e known would always underestimate the power of their mind, and later find out that its to late.

It feels pretty good on being clean, It took me a bit to realize that I don't need the weed to help me escape in life as I assumed. I remember when I was high, I was predicting my own future if I wanted to either remain as a nobody or a somebody. I chose being the somebody, nowadays even though I miss the weed I realize that its not worth sinking my future career down the tubes because of it. As for depression, it has a come and gone cycle for me. I could say that since I am at a much better place now, I don't have to deal with the **** Iv'e been dealing with for quite some time.
 
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