buddhist
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I was focusing on it's alleged qualities of eternality and infinity, not on omnipotence.I'm sorry, but do you understand how onmipotence works?
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I was focusing on it's alleged qualities of eternality and infinity, not on omnipotence.I'm sorry, but do you understand how onmipotence works?
The act of creation (cause & effect) shows that it would be subject to time.He is the creator of time and space
Besides time is not an entity
An unlimited existence should be immaterial and when he hadn't created anything there wasn't any time
By creation time began
Are you saying that infinity cannot exist in the real world?I was focusing on it's alleged qualities of eternality and infinity, not on omnipotence.
Which one of them?The act of creation (cause & effect) shows that it would be subject to time.
The nature of infinite eternality demands that the thing which possesses that quality must be static, and cannot act, since action demands finite-ness.Are you saying that infinity cannot exist in the real world?
What prompts "creation" that created Time?Which one of them?
U didn't get what I said
Time is not an entity
By creation the first move will begin and we call this move Time
So time is a concept that we infer from the act of creation just like causality
When a cause creates something we infer the concept of causality
So time doesn't exist as a separate existence
First cause created the first creature and we infer the time from the act of creationWhat prompts "creation" that created Time?
Umm, no it doesn't. Why would it? Where did you get such an idea?The nature of infinite eternality demands that the thing which possesses that quality must be static, and cannot act, since action demands finite-ness.
Time to me is simply sequences of events, cause and effect. Creation is an act within time. If there was no time, then no creation can happen.First cause created the first creature and we infer the time from the act of creation
Time isn't something to be created
It's just a concept that we understand from creation
First seems we should understand what time it is then argue about that
If something is infinite, then it possesses All within itself, and nothing else needs to be created, or else it would not be infinite.Umm, no it doesn't. Why would it? Where did you get such an idea?
We can still add to infinity, you know, so that doesn't mean that it necessarily possesses everything within itself.If something is infinite, then it possesses All within itself, and nothing else needs to be created, or else it would not be infinite.
Is Sequence of events an entity??????Time to me is simply sequences of events, cause and effect. Creation is an act within time. If there was no time, then no creation can happen.
That's not the understanding I hold regarding infinity.We can still add to infinity, you know, so that doesn't mean that it necessarily possesses everything within itself.
What I'm saying that, if there could not have been a "first cause", because such a thing would need to be subject to time.Is Sequence of events an entity??????
If not so the first cause when hadn't created anything there would not be any time
Am I wrong???
Define 'God'.
This is the most honest answer I have ever heard to that question. If all believers were similarly honest we wouldn't have all this friction.