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'Free Will', as it pertains to any self-proclaimed monotheistic religion, describes a counter-intuitive worship of self, to the extent that individual desires become gods themselves, occasionally subverting each respective monotheistic God's intent.
'Free Will', as it pertains to any self-proclaimed monotheistic religion, describes a counter-intuitive worship of self, to the extent that individual desires become gods themselves, occasionally subverting each respective monotheistic God's intent.
What is will, and what is "free will"?'Free Will', as it pertains to any self-proclaimed monotheistic religion, describes a counter-intuitive worship of self, to the extent that individual desires become gods themselves, occasionally subverting each respective monotheistic God's intent.
Is this meant to be a question on monotheism, or to point out that every expression of free-will that isn't in accordance with choosing G-d'd intent is by nature idol worship?'Free Will', as it pertains to any self-proclaimed monotheistic religion, describes a counter-intuitive worship of self, to the extent that individual desires become gods themselves, occasionally subverting each respective monotheistic God's intent.
What is will, and what is "free will"?
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Id assume that we have free will (free choice of 'our own') to do as we will. Its not pined down to any religion or theology. It just means you have the choice and ability to do X. While some people with illnesses dont have free will to decide on their own behalf. Those in mental health hospital care have their free will taken to supposedly better their well being.
Its not religious. Its like saying karma is a Buddhist thought. It isnt. It just means the causes we make bring good or bad consequences.
Its not religious. So I couldnt really choose an option. Free will is embedded in life.
Hmmmm...I had to re-read the question a few times to understand what you were implying.
So "free will" was given to humankind in the beginning so that choices could be made within the parameters set by the Creator, enhancing their life in a hundred different ways every day. IOW, free will wasn't totally free. It had boundaries so that it would be a blessing to God's children if exercised within those boundaries.
Is this meant to be a question on monotheism, or to point out that every expression of free-will that isn't in accordance with choosing G-d'd intent is by nature idol worship?
Er... speaking as a polytheist... what the blazes are you talking about? Worship of the self is autotheism. I'm getting the sense you're using "polytheist" as a dirty, pejorative snarl word. If so, please stop it.
I see what you're saying. In my religion, one perform idol worship without actually being that the idol is divine, so I see a distinction there.Designating it as idol worship, or autolatry, falls short. Believing that power exists apart from God is illogical, if we're defining God as God, being the insurmountable, all-encompassing power. But, what the 'Free Will' idea necessitates is blasphemy, that is, to admit that our intentions may elevate themselves even above God. It is autolatry, or idol worship, and for this reason also, it is polytheism, i.e. belief in many gods.
What is will, and what is "free will"?
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It depends on who you ask:
'Will' can generally be defined as intent, or desire. In Judaism, Islam Christianity, etc., 'Free Will' is the means by which individual intentions are capable of subverting each respective God's intent, or will.
A very good question, with many subtly illusive answers.
But let me explain it this way: If your will is determined you would be perfectly logical,
like a computer program, incapable of error or misunderstanding. If there was no free will,
we would not be able to ask questions, because the answers would already be predetermined.
So the REAL question, is: to what extent is our will free?
My answer is that the ONLY decision that is free, is whether we choose to think further... or not.
The decision to think or not, must be free, because we do not know about that we have not
thought about yet. If it was not a free decision to think, then our next thoughts would be already know
as they would be predetermined.
Think about it.
(or not)
The 'Free Will' idea doesn't acknowledge only one God, but many.
Everyone becomes a god. And for this reason, I would say autotheism falls short.
'Free Will' is inherently polytheistic.
How would this relate to polytheism?
No, it doesn't. The concept of free will is not theistic. Philosophies about free will (or the lack thereof) don't have anything inherently to do with theology at all. I really don't understand where you are getting the idea from that free will must be related to theism, or is somehow polytheistic. You're not making sense.
Why? I'm not seeing the connection from "free will = everyone becomes a god." And besides, such deification of humans is, again, autotheism, not polytheism. What you're talking about is typical of Western LHP religions which emphasize personal power and autonomy (aka, autotheism), but this is unrelated to polytheism.
No, it really, really isn't.
Free Will creates worship of self to make our intentions god?'Free Will', as it pertains to any self-proclaimed monotheistic religion, describes a counter-intuitive worship of self, to the extent that individual desires become gods themselves, occasionally subverting each respective monotheistic God's intent.
Sleepy-I second this notion. Can you rephrase what you're saying?Er... speaking as a polytheist... what the blazes are you talking about?
No. Will is an action based on choice. The will/choice of a person to do X. It ha nothing to do with intent. As a result, free will is the freedom to choose on one's own or another person's behalf rather than someone doing it for us. God(s) and intentions have nothing to do with it.'Will' can generally be defined as intent, or desire. In Judaism, Islam Christianity, etc., 'Free Will' is the means by which individual intentions are capable of subverting each respective God's intent, or will.
Since Free Will is a simple concept of having the choice to choose one's own actions, how does this choice/action elevate oneself over god? And when one person elevates themselves over one god as you claim, how is that polytheism since there needs to be more than one person to elevate oneself over more than one god?But, what the 'Free Will' idea necessitates is blasphemy, that is, to admit that our intentions may elevate themselves even above God. It is autolatry, or idol worship, and for this reason also, it is polytheism, i.e. belief in many gods.
Free Will just means "We can choose (or have a will) our actions". It has nothing to do with theism, polytheism, etc. It talks about choice and action nothing more. On that note:The 'Free Will' idea doesn't acknowledge only one God, but many. Everyone becomes a god. And for this reason, I would say autotheism falls short. 'Free Will' is inherently polytheist
No, it doesn't. The concept of free will is not theistic. Philosophies about free will (or the lack thereof) don't have anything inherently to do with theology at all. I really don't understand where you are getting the idea from that free will must be related to theism, or is somehow polytheistic. You're not making sense.
Claiming that God is surmountable, contradicts monotheism. Those who believe they may subvert God, with free will, thereby consider themselves gods. 'Free Will' is inherently polytheistic.
'Free Will', as it pertains to any self-proclaimed monotheistic religion, describes a counter-intuitive worship of self, to the extent that individual desires become gods themselves, occasionally subverting each respective monotheistic God's intent.
I'm asking YOU.It depends on who you ask:
Really??? How very odd.'Will' can generally be defined as intent, or desire.
Nice to know how it's used in these religions I guess, but we still don't know what you think it is; as in a definition of free will? The above is like asking to define gasoline and told it's the means by which engines run. The usage of a word is nice and perhaps interesting, but it doesn't amount to a definition.In Judaism, Islam Christianity, etc., 'Free Will' is the means by which individual intentions are capable of subverting each respective God's intent, or will.
You're confusing its nature with its operation. The nature of no free will is the inability to do differently, One must do whatever the sequence of causes and effects leading up to the moment of doing dictate. And they can very well dictate that one ask questions. That the answers to such questions are already established has no bearing on what one does.A very good question, with many subtly illusive answers.
But let me explain it this way: If your will is determined you would be perfectly logical,
like a computer program, incapable of error or misunderstanding. If there was no free will,
we would not be able to ask questions, because the answers would already be predetermined.
Well, it's certainly one question.So the REAL question, is: to what extent is our will free?
Interesting. Why is this so?My answer is that the ONLY decision that is free, is whether we choose to think further... or not.
This assumes that deciding is possible. And to do that, to decide, to choose among options, one must already posit free will. In effect you would be saying that the freedom do decide must be free, which is kind of a tautologyThe decision to think or not, must be free, because we do not know about that we have not
thought about yet.
Why? Just because everything that happens, including our thoughts, is, in a sense, predetermine in no way insures we know them.If it was not a free decision to think, then our next thoughts would be already know [be known?]
as they would be predetermined.