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Millennials are Selfish and Entitled...

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
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Any truth to that? Are Millennials really "selfish and entitled"? Or is that just nonsense?
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
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I can't speak for all the quote since I'm Australian and Regan is nothing more to me than that actor guy.
But I suppose with more and more emphasis on protecting children with each passing generation there is a sense of entertainment that is bound to grow generally speaking. I mean Helicopter parents, those new age "we must never hurt their feelings" parents probably contributed to a sense of entitlement among the youth. Add in ever increasing comforts with better technology and well...
But it goes back way before the Melennials. A few generations at least.
 

Terese

Mangalam Pundarikakshah
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Has the attitude of young people who live between 1989 to 2000 changed from those who lived earlier? @Sunstone you're comparatively old to me. What do you say?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I can't speak for all the quote since I'm Australian and Regan is nothing more to me than that actor guy.
But I suppose with more and more emphasis on protecting children with each passing generation there is a sense of entertainment that is bound to grow generally speaking. I mean Helicopter parents, those new age "we must never hurt their feelings" parents probably contributed to a sense of entitlement among the youth. Add in ever increasing comforts with better technology and well...
But it goes back way before the Melennials. A few generations at least.

Yea. I think there is an amount of truth to that. Each subsequent generation essentally is the product of the prior one.

People do say karma is a *****.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Has the attitude of young people who live between 1989 to 2000 changed from those who lived earlier? @Sunstone you're comparatively old to me. What do you say?

Terese, I don't think Millennials overall are any more selfish or feel any more entitled than former generations. There may be some general differences, such as that Millennials may not have as much fear of socialism as former generations, or they might be a wee bit less sexually active in their teens, or they might be somewhat less religious than their elders. But I think the notion they are more selfish or feel more entitled is laughable.
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
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Any truth to that? Are Millennials really "selfish and entitled"? Or is that just nonsense?
Let's take this a step further. I am very bitter with the baby boomer generation because of their moral high horse that they rode in on, but let's consider a few things...

Baby boomers came of age in an era of unprecedented prosperity. They were raised by parents who had survived poverty, war and the true sacrifice of a generation burdened with great moral struggles. As a whole, they experienced economic and physical security. Baby boomers received, by today’s standards, inexpensive and widely available education, preparing them for a thriving and open job market. Success at the beginning created a strong foundation for financial and personal success on a level the world had never known.
And then what happened, papa Q?

Well kids...
So what did they do with all their good fortune? From the time the baby boomers took over, the United States has experienced an economic environment plagued with unfounded asset and real-estate bubbles and collapses. The bubbles were caused by blind greed on the part of investors, and a blind eye on the part of regulators. The baby boomers forced the financial and banking system out of relative security to high-risk systems.

Wow, that sounds bad... but we aren't done yet...

In government, baby boomers ballooned the defense budget beyond the point of reason. They then raided government programs to pay for their mistakes. Regarding the environment, baby boomers left the United States reliant on coal (cough, cough) while eroding the advanced nuclear energy infrastructure built by their parents. We can thank baby boomer leadership for a nation that has no sound policy on foreign affairs, the environment, energy, social welfare, human rights, terrorism, technology development, education, debt, etc. The point being, baby boomer leadership has provided America with a government that is the most partisan and self-serving the union has ever seen, and remains entirely reactive to the world around it.

So to any baby boomer jack@#$ out there who looks down their long nose at my generation and says we aren't good enough... @#$% you. Half of the problems I have to deal with are the product of decades of political, economic, and social choices that took place before I could even drive a car. So when you look at me and say "this is your fault" you can drive a flaming bus off Niagara Falls, you arrogant piece of crap!

/rant
 

Demonslayer

Well-Known Member
Terese, I don't think Millennials overall are any more selfish or feel any more entitled than former generations. There may be some general differences, such as that Millennials may not have as much fear of socialism as former generations, or they might be a wee bit less sexually active in their teens, or they might be somewhat less religious than their elders. But I think the notion they are more selfish or feel more entitled is laughable.

Absolutely this. If anything its the generation before that can't stop constantly whining and griping about "these damn millennials." Oh look at them with their hipster tight jeans and man-bun hairdo! Yeah, you think you looked any better with your Cuban heel boots, brylcreem duck tail hairdo and a pack of Lucky's rolled up in your t-shirt sleeve?

Every generation does this...craps on the generation coming up without remembering all the stupid crap their generation did. Hey I'm 45, I wore parachute pants for pete's sake...I'm going to make fun of a hipster or a kid with his jeans down around his butt?

The halls of Harvard, MIT, Julliard and Berkeley are chalk full of millennials. Millennials will land people on Mars and cure cancer. Your doctor is probably a millennial, and if not now, down the road it will be. I train at a Crossfit gym and I'm the far out old man surrounded by hundreds of super fit millennials, training for 50 mile super marathons, tough mudder races and American Ninja Warrior. The Unites States Marine Corps and the Navy Seals are all millennials. The world didn't carry on for thousands of years and then suddenly today's generation is going to crumble. It's a perception thing, avoid being a curmudgeon, the next generation is no worse than yours or the one before yours.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Generation bashing is a sign of degeneracy.
And the quote bespeaks shrill partisanship.
Reagan was an "economic illiterate" and responsible for economic conditions many decades hence?
Pish posh!

What generation of old fogies doesn't criticize young whippersnappers?
They called us "dirty hippies", but now we've become the geezers.
We shake our canes at millennials, telling'm to get their lazy entitled arsches off'n our lawns.
Nuthin changes.....except no one over-used "entitled" back in the day.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
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This is perhaps one of the more poignant articles on Millennial I've read: "Adulting" is an Indictment of Society, Not of Millennials by John Beckett. An excerpt from this essay:

Millennials – and others – were told they could be anything they wanted. We told them to “follow your bliss.” Of course, we didn’t mean it. What we meant was “you can choose from any of the approved options that support our way of seeing the world.” We removed many (though far from all) of the blocks previous generations had based on gender, race, or orientation, but everyone was still expected to get a job, pay taxes, and contribute to the maintenance of the system, whether that system supported their bliss or not.

But the Millennials heard what we told them over and over again and assumed it was true. And then when it came time to be an adult, they didn’t like what they saw.

“So you want me to put on expensive, uncomfortable clothes, commute to a job, work all day five or six days a week for 50 weeks a year, all so we can ‘increase shareholder value.’ If I play this game really really well maybe in 20 years I’ll be an executive and make tons of money, but I’ll work even more hours. If I don’t, I’ll be kicked to the curb the first time ‘fixed expenses’ need to be cut so some executive can make his bonus target.

If this is being an adult, I want to be something else.”
 

Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Yes, and no. Both of my kids are millennials, and I think the largest differences are:

1) College doesn't equal high paying job, unless it's a big name school. The cost of the schooling is insane. Most of the people of my generation were able to repay their loans in a year or two of professional life. Not the case anymore. This mega-debt out the gate doesn't allow for very many stellar outcomes.

2) Other jobs are hard to find, and large amounts of them are unemployed. It's easier to apply for welfare and crash at your folks house than work. It's probably more profitable too in the case of low paying jobs.

3) Drugs are a much larger problem, and everyone is on a cocktail. (legal or not) Chemically enhanced (or hampered) living.

4) Homeownership is almost a myth with the under 25 crowd. The combination of #2 + #3 = really difficult to get the credit up. Especially after the mega-loans on #1.

5) No savings, most of them being a part of the greater precariot.

So, I guess the thing to me is if they feel entitled they're nuts. :) They have it worse, and they have even less ability to dig themselves out of any perceived holes.

As far as Reagan, he was basically a wall st. puppet like Obama/Hillary. So, if you hate what he did don't vote for them. :p
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
I don't think we have any right to criticize the so-called "Millennials"... they are just doing what we taught them and expect what we instilled in their eager little brains... Payback is a ******.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
1) College doesn't equal high paying job, unless it's a big name school.
The right degree from a no-name school is still pretty good, eg, engineering.
The cost of the schooling is insane. Most of the people of my generation were able to repay their loans in a year or two of professional life. Not the case anymore. This mega-debt out the gate doesn't allow for very many stellar outcomes.
My under-grad tuition was $300/term.
My daughter's was somewhere well north of $10,000/term.
But now they have fancier buildings, plusher dorms, & racial/gender/privilege/cis sensitivity training.
2) Other jobs are hard to find, and large amounts of them are unemployed. It's easier to apply for welfare and crash at your folks house than work. It's probably more profitable too in the case of low paying jobs.
The real gubmint money is in whelping out a few kids.
4) Homeownership is almost a myth with the under 25 crowd. The combination of #2 + #3 = really difficult to get the credit up. Especially after the mega-loans on #1.
Home ownership is over-rated.
Heed this sage advice from a former Realtor & current home owner.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I don't think we have any right to criticize the so-called "Millennials"... they are just doing what we taught them and expect what we instilled in their eager little brains... Payback is a biatch.
Instead of b**ching them out, I thank them for working so hard to fuel my Social Security payments.
Hey!
I get another one this month.

Thank you....everyone who works & pays taxes!
 
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