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Old Testament versus New Testament
- Thread starter midopafo
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God's law to Israel meant that justice demands equivalency.....not so much literally as I don't think I have read anywhere in the OT that God's people had their eyes put out or their teeth removed as punishment, but it was a principle that meant that the punishment should fit the crime. For example, when men were involved in a fight and a pregnant woman struck in the process so that she miscarried her baby and it died, the person who caused the child's death was then sentenced to death...a life for a life. (Ex 21:22-25)
Jesus' teaching about 'loving our enemies' is not just forgiving them but not raising a hand in retaliation. We are to "return evil for evil to no one". (Rom 12:17-21)
An "eye for an eye" was part of the law God gave to Israel, which is no longer binding on Christ's followers. Jesus fulfilled it and took it out of the way with his sacrifice. (Col 2:13, 14)
We are now under the 'Law of love', which means that we are to love God with all we have, and to love our neighbor as ourselves. (Matt 22:35-39)
First Baseman
Retired athlete
It isn't OT vs. NT. They go together. Read the book of Hebrews to discover how the two are connected.
Old Testament vs. New Testament is legit comparison because the view on God is completely different, they don't really go together - people forced that thought.
God truly is jealous and will punish those who make other equal to Him.
Demonslayer
Well-Known Member
Old Testament - Super Bonkers Crazy
New Testament - Very Slightly Less Crazy
New Testament - Very Slightly Less Crazy
First Baseman
Retired athlete
Good try but God will also punish false prophets. Also see John 3:17-18
This is strictly a Biblical debate so please keep other books out of it. Thank you.
With that I agree, false prophets will be punished. And I didn't go off-topic anywhere with other books.
First Baseman
Retired athlete
That's true but I sensed that you were headed in that direction... Certain "prophets" are not mentioned in the Bible.
An eye for an eye was the progressive principle of lex talionis. It served to constrain and, in many cases mitigate, the punishment available to the legal authorities. As such it served as an egalitarian advancement.
First Baseman
Retired athlete
True, as some "messiahs" aren't mentioned in the Torah.
The Bible is much more than the Torah.
The Bible is much more than the Torah.
I'm talking about words directly given by God, not what was later inspired by Him etc.
That which is written by men I'm not much interested in to be honest.
Aštra’el
Aštara, Blade of Aštoreth
There is no "versus". There is great strength, power, wisdom, and beauty within the Old Testament as well as the New Testament. I will say, however, that I feel there is a strong connection between the Old Testament and Sumero-Babylonian mythology... and a strong connection between the New Testament and Zoroastrianism...
First Baseman
Retired athlete
I'm talking about words directly given by God, not what was later inspired by Him etc.
That which is written by men I'm not much interested in to be honest.
So you think God personally wrote the Torah? Wow.
Certain men wrote the books you believe. Contradict yourself much?
God recite to Moshe ﷺ the Torah letter by letter directly.
Scriptures were inspired by God, but not given by Him. The same goes with the whole New Testament.
And Quran which was given to Muhammad ﷺ was given by God.
Demonslayer
Well-Known Member
Then you should toss out all the holy books, as they were all written by men.
Demonslayer
Well-Known Member
His pen must be enormous, like a Sequoia tree with an ink cartridge.