SpeaksForTheTrees
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Aleister Crowley gematria published proven on many things not just scriptures
A=1000 you out by 000
The difference is zero
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There ain't no Jesus here.
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A=1000 you out by 000
The difference is zero
rosends
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so you are citing Aleister Crowley? HAHAHAHA!
That is just SO precious!
SpeaksForTheTrees
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Reality is the Abrahamic religions preach more hate than the evilest man in the world.
As parent religion your doing a fine job of removing religious divides , not .
rosends
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this coming from someone who relies on Crowley to explain Gematria...LOL
SpeaksForTheTrees
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this coming from someone who's people at some time have been kicked out of every country in Europe .
rosends
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Yes. And so? As ripostes go, that doesn't. I'll wait while you look the difficult words up.
SpeaksForTheTrees
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Is a fact not an insult
djhwoodwerks
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I have an idea, why don't you people on this thread get together and rewrite the Bible! Seems everyone on here has more knowledge and insight, and a better understanding of the original writings than any of the scholars who ever lived. You all should get together and give us the "REAL" truth. What do you say!!?? Come on! Give us the "REAL" Bible!!
Tumah
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You are of course aware that there are many Jewish scholars, perhaps more Jewish scholars than Christian scholars in total, right?
But either way, why not just come for the ride? We're just doing a simple reading of the text without any extraneous sources. It shouldn't be too hard.
roger1440
I do stuff
This is gonna be good. What "original writings"?
Thanks rosends for your reply.
Agree Jesus was never anointed with the sheme hamishcha but according to Christian Scripture Jesus was anointed with God's spirit at his baptism - Matthew 3:16-17;Luke 3:21-22
Also, agree Isaiah 11:3-4 + has Not happened. Not happened yet.
God's promise to father Abraham - Genesis 12:3; Genesis 22:18 - has also Not happened yet - Hebrews 11:13; Hebrews 11:39
Before ALL families of earth will be blessed, and ALL nations of earth will be blessed, Jesus will fulfill God's promise to father Abraham.
Jesus' executional words will rid the earth of wickedness - Revelation 19:11; Revelation 19:14-16; Psalms 92:7
Jesus will prove to be the ' banner ' signal of Isaiah 11:10; Isaiah 11:12
Jesus will fulfill God's promise that all nations of earth will be blessed. Blessed with the benefit of healing for earth's nations - Revelation 22:2
Revelation 22:2 shows the coming return of the Genesis ' tree of life ' on earth for the healing of earth's nations.
Tumah
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I'd be interested in any Tanach verses you may know of that use the word "anoint" in relation to anything other than oil.
Could you please explain more about the prefix letter that you used.
Daniel 9:24-26... after the 62 weeks ( of years ) Messiah will be cut off..... Jesus' life was cut short at that time frame.
Counting from Nehemiah 2:1-5 the starting date of 455 BCE to 483 years later brings us to the first century time of Christ as Anointed One by God's spirit.
Tumah
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Sorry about the messed up quoting. Didn't realize it until now.
Its called the "Heh of knowing". Its like saying "the" in English, but its usage is more isolated to when the object is a specific known. Like if you say, "give me the chair" or "give me a chair". The former indicates that you want a specific chair.
Do you realize that you are reverse engineering in order to get the date to match Jesus? There is no indication in Nehemiah that this is the correct decree for the Temple to be rebuilt. Your using it so that it will match you time frame you want. And you haven't answered what happened in the year 28 CE which is the specific year that your math will bring us to.
First, I have a question because I see a ' pillar ' was anointed at Genesis 31:13, why would that be done ?
I found Jehu anointed with oil at 2 Kings 9:1-2, but is there any record of anyone anointing Hazael or Elisha with oil ?
Moses was called Anointed One ( Christ ) although Not anointed with oil.
Cyrus was also Anointed One - Isaiah 45:1 - anointed to do a specific work in his case.
So, although Jesus was Not anointed with literal oil but with God's spirit - Matthew 1:16; Matthew 3:16 - still God's appointed one - Psalms 2:2; Luke 4:18 -
Jesus' office was Not dealing with an earthly kingship but would be a heavenly anointing - Psalms 45:7-8
Ingledsva
HEATHEN ALASKAN
As usual not a pertinent answer to the post, and sheer diddly-squat.
No trinity, no virgin birth, etc.
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rosends
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So you are saying that a later text can change the definition of words so that it can justify itself as satisfying earlier requirements? Can it redefine "no" to be "yes" also?
so we agree that all that stuff has not happened. Therefore, as those are indicators of the arrival of the messiah, we agree that the messiah has not come yet.
For me, I say Messiah over saying the Messiah. So both words ' the ' and ' a ' aren't necessarily being used in pointing to Jesus as Messiah.
I think the word ' the ' - Daniel 9:25-26 - is Not found in the Septuagint.(?)
Also, because of No zero year, the year would be 29 CE. 29 CE would bring us to the date of Jesus' baptism ( either number brings us to Jesus time frame - Luke 3:21-23 - age 30 )
Persian King Artaxerxes authorized Nehemiah to restore and rebuild Jerusalem - Nehemiah 2:1-8 - doesn't secular Persian history help establish the 455 BCE date
Ingledsva
HEATHEN ALASKAN
By the way - do you really think spouting Christianized Qabalah makes it so?
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I'm more like saying Not changing the definition, but that some things in Scripture have both a literal application and a spiritual application.
The arrival of Messiah Jesus has Not yet come because the soon coming ' time of separation ' - Matthew 25:31-33 - has Not yet taken place - Matthew 16:27
Jesus was here on earth until God resurrected the dead Jesus back to heaven - Acts of the Apostles 13:30; Acts of the Apostles 13:37; Psalms 16:10
Jesus gave a parable or illustration that first he would travel far away ( heaven ) before later returning in kingdom glory - Luke 19:11-13; Luke 19:14-15
That ' later ' returning in glory is the yet coming part.