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Lets assume you have a dream....

cambridge79

Active Member
....and in that dream a prophet or a saint or a god of your religion ( lets say you're a christian and jesus speaks to you In that dream ) tells you something. How would you value that experience?

Now, Same incipit but this time in the dream is a prophet/god of a religion different from your own, ( lets say you're a christian and Muhammad speaks to you In that dream ) how would you value that experience?
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
....and in that dream a prophet or a saint or a god of your religion ( lets say you're a christian and jesus speaks to you In that dream ) tells you something. How would you value that experience?

Now, Same incipit but this time in the dream is a prophet/god of a religion different from your own, ( lets say you're a christian and Muhammad speaks to you In that dream ) how would you value that experience?
As an atheist it is my view that due to ones emotional investment one would, necessarily, treat the dreams quite differently. In other words, given an existing relationship, one would put more weight into a dream from ones favorite deity than one would towards a personality from another persuasion.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
I know this was aimed more at theists, but even a very real feeling dream would be passed off as 'just a dream' by me. I suspect it would need to be very specifically prophetic for me not to write it off.
 

Laika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
If it were an intense dream, I'd probably treat the dream as a form of wish-fulfillment and wonder what my unconscious is trying to tell me based on the associations. I don't think I'd treat the dream as real though.
 

Tumah

Veteran Member
Rabbi Samuel the son of Nachmani said in the name of Rabbi Johnathan, 'A person is shown is not shown in his dreams, except what he thought about in his heart as it says, "You king, your thoughts [from the day], came [to you] on your bed (Dan. 2:29)" and some say from here, "and the thought of your heart [from the day], you knew [at night when you dreamt].'
-Talmud
 

Sundance

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Yep seriously, I was a c Christian at the time, and I had a vision of Krishna appearing in my room, the whole room was illuminated with his divine spirit, this is when I dropped all religion.

He told you this or was it a decision that came from such an experience? What do you believe now?
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
He told you this or was it a decision that came from such an experience? What do you believe now?
No, there was no words, it was an inner realization that I have never felt before, in this realization I saw everything as One, I realized that religion only separated us all from each other, after this realization my whole life changed, I even wrote a book about it.
 

raph

Member
I would give the dream serious thought. I only dreamt of prophets 2 times, and it always had a meaning. I believe that when normal people get visions or messages from God, it is mostly in dreams.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
I only dream about things/people I have emotional attachments to or otherwise my dreams are bizarre, surrealistic or nightmarish (usually some combination of all of those things, and with sex thrown in at times). I highly doubt I would ever dream about some religious figure that I don't even care for in my waking state. If I did, I might think about it for a bit but I doubt it'll make me change my beliefs, especially if the religion they represent is opposed to my personal gnosis. I would never convert to Islam, for example.
 
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YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Yep seriously, I was a c Christian at the time, and I had a vision of Krishna appearing in my room, the whole room was illuminated with his divine spirit, this is when I dropped all religion.
What can I say, he gets around. It's funny how religion just sort of fizzles out after the event, eh?
 

Guy Threepwood

Mighty Pirate
....and in that dream a prophet or a saint or a god of your religion ( lets say you're a christian and jesus speaks to you In that dream ) tells you something. How would you value that experience?

Now, Same incipit but this time in the dream is a prophet/god of a religion different from your own, ( lets say you're a christian and Muhammad speaks to you In that dream ) how would you value that experience?

I'd probably put the latter down to eating spicy food too late at night!
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
....and in that dream a prophet or a saint or a god of your religion ( lets say you're a christian and jesus speaks to you In that dream ) tells you something. How would you value that experience?

Now, Same incipit but this time in the dream is a prophet/god of a religion different from your own, ( lets say you're a christian and Muhammad speaks to you In that dream ) how would you value that experience?

I'd interpret either as just that: dreams. Granted, I don't like our overculture's habit of dismissing dreams as meaningless dribble, but only because they might provide insights into the subconscious; problem being that studying them is quite difficult, and even more difficult is finding any sort of reliable "interpreting dreams" information.

I've never been Christian, but Jesus shows up from time to time in my dreams. I simply attribute this to the fact that Christianity has such a strong presence in the overculture I was raised in. Plus, Jesus Christ Superstar. If any Gods I currently honor showed up, I hope I'd treat them more or less likewise: a result of exposure.
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
A dream is just a dream, its never real, if you want to know what is real then go within, for without is just dream, but within is reality.
 
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