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Judaism: no mass revelation of G-d with Jews mentioned in Exodus Chapter 19 and 20

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
The people have a bad reaction to hearing the words directly from God and say so in 16. God, in verse 19 reaffirms through Moses that he people did hear from God directly.

The text does indicate that:
  • neither the people went up the mountain (only Moses and Aaron went as per the text) none other went,
  • nor YHWH descended to the masses to talk with them directly,
  • the masses were afraid of the YHWH lest He wreaks at them. (What chosen people they , the Jews, claim to be?)
  • there was a barricade for the Jews, they could no cross.
  • The conversation was between YHWH and Moses in direct manner up at the mountain.
  • It was indirectly conveyed to the masses.
That proves my point.

Regards
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
The text does indicate that:
  • neither the people went up the mountain (only Moses and Aaron went as per the text) none other went,
  • nor YHWH descended to the masses to talk with them directly,
  • the masses were afraid of the YHWH lest He wreaks at them. (What chosen people they , the Jews, claim to be?)
  • there was a barricade for the Jews, they could no cross.
  • The conversation was between YHWH and Moses in direct manner up at the mountain.
  • It was indirectly conveyed to the masses.
That proves my point.

Regards
:rolleyes:
 

rosends

Well-Known Member
The text does indicate that:
  • neither the people went up the mountain (only Moses and Aaron went as per the text) none other went,
  • nor YHWH descended to the masses to talk with them directly,
  • the masses were afraid of the YHWH lest He wreaks at them. (What chosen people they , the Jews, claim to be?)
  • there was a barricade for the Jews, they could no cross.
  • The conversation was between YHWH and Moses in direct manner up at the mountain.
  • It was indirectly conveyed to the masses.
That proves my point.

Regards
The text indicates that they did not go up and God did not go down, and yet he spoke to them from where he was to where they were and they reacted to it. The text explicitly says that he spoke directly to them. This, clearly, disproves your point.

Instead of simple reasserting your same interpretation, you might want to confront what the cited text actually says. You convince no one when you ignore the words of the text.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
I am just expressing my thoughts on the subject, they are not intended for any person specifically.
One doesn't have to be convinced with them.
It is in search for truth, where-ever and where-from it may come.

Regards
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
The text does indicate that:
  • neither the people went up the mountain (only Moses and Aaron went as per the text) none other went,
  • nor YHWH descended to the masses to talk with them directly,
  • the masses were afraid of the YHWH lest He wreaks at them. (What chosen people they , the Jews, claim to be?)
  • there was a barricade for the Jews, they could no cross.
  • The conversation was between YHWH and Moses in direct manner up at the mountain.
  • It was indirectly conveyed to the masses.
That proves my point.

Regards
I'm not familiar with your religious beliefs. Which parts of the Bible, say, the Bible I use, the KJV, do you adhere to? Which books?
regards, disciple
 
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