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What do you think of the virgin birth of Jesus ?

What's your opinion about the virgin birth of Jesus


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FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Do you believe a woman can get pregnant without a man being involved ?
Does science support it ?
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
As I understand it, the Bible does not actually claim that Jesus was born of a virgin.

The teaching that he did does exist, but has non-canonical sources. It is not even quite universal among Christians, although few surviving Christian movements lack it.

A virgin birth might be explainable under certain circunstances, though. Perhaps most simply of all as a mistake or just an odd belief. People sometimes do hold strange beliefs for no apparent reason.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
Oh, right, I had forgotten that what was apparently a translation mistake was already settled by the time of the gospels. Thanks.
What translation "mistake"? You mean the whole "almah" thing? Well, blame that on the Jews who translated the Hebrew Bible into Greek, because they chose the word "parthenos" which means "virgin". As far as I know, non-Christian Jews only started claiming it was a "mistake" after Christianity arose. If you have evidence that Jews were bickering over the translation before Christianity, then I'm all ears.

However, even if it does mean "young maiden", it implies that said girl is a virgin since it implies that she's unmarried. Unless you want to say that the Messiah is to be born of a fornicator.
 
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Awoon

Well-Known Member
In the religion about Jesus, all things are possible. But do virgins give birth without a man in The Religion of Jesus?
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
To me just never happened, it was a metaphor, everyman and his dog was born from a virgin back then, the virgin birth simply means to be born from that place deep within that has never been touched by the world, this place is known as the Christ Consciousness, and the Christ of Jesus was born from there.
 

Mycroft

Ministry of Serendipity
I think that Occam's Razor applies here. Let us ask ourselves which is the more likely scenario: That a divine superbeing impregnated Mary (without asking or consent, one might add) with the 'saviour of mankind' and suchforth, or that Mary simply had an affair with another man and lied about it?
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
without asking, one might add
Mary was offered the chance to say no during the Annunciation when Gabriel told her about the plan. Her response was “Behold, I am the handmaid of the Lord; let it be to me according to your word.” She could've said no.
 

Mycroft

Ministry of Serendipity
I guess it takes Faith to believe in this and some people come up short in the faith department.

It would be foolhardy to believe that simply because one does not believe in religion, that they have no faith at all. I, for example, have faith in my fellow human beings that we shall eventually overcome all of the problems of today and tomorrow.
 

Awoon

Well-Known Member
I think that Occam's Razor applies here. Let us ask ourselves which is the more likely scenario: That a divine superbeing impregnated Mary (without asking or consent, one might add) with the 'saviour of mankind' and suchforth, or that Mary simply had an affair with another man and lied about it?

Neither. It's just a made up story to prove no one can follow Jesus Religion. That's why they created The Religion about Jesus.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
It's a story from a mythology that I don't follow and likely referred to the birth of a child by an unmarried woman given the time of its writing?
 

Mycroft

Ministry of Serendipity
Mary was offered the chance to say no during the Annunciation when Gabriel told her about the plan. Her response was “Behold, I am the handmaid of the Lord; let it be to me according to your word.” She could've said no.

Occam's Razor still applies.
 
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