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France at war with ISIS!!

Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
If they were trying to make a statement against France they would have attacked government targets not cartoonists who make fun of their country's president.

Yeah, and the cartoonists had a good go at the Pope too.

But it wasn't just the cartoonists they massacred, they struck at a Jewish supermarket too. Cynical and calculated targeting going on there.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
Really?....

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Yeah and you don't see them on college campuses, do you???
 

Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
I thought the US was heavily into the right to free speech? First amendment? I don't get why the US wouldn't support France's commitment to free speech.
 
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Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
you don't live in America, do you Spiny, we haven't really had free speech since Reagan became president, it considered "old fashioned".
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
The attack made Charlie Hebdo popular. Now it will sell by million copies easily.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
Just like that movie about the Korean leader, still doesn't make it a good movie, worth watching, does it??
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
Now we have criminal threats, even threatening to steal someones property, a felony, terrorist threats, again a felony, none of these things used to be illegal, any kind of speech that threatens the livelyhood of a business can be prosecuted in court. etc etc
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I thought the US was heavily into the right to free speech? First amendment? I don't get why the US wouldn't support France's commitment to free speech.
We overwhelmingly do, but there's an element who either didn't get the memo or only want to hear or read what they want to hear or read.
 

Sultan Of Swing

Well-Known Member
Au revoir, ISIS fighters: French jets bomb jihadists - NY Daily News

You may think this is today's headline, but no, this is yesterdays news!! In fact since September of last year France has been bombing and killing ISIS fighters with French fighter jets as part of the coalition started by the good ol USA. So given presumably dozens or more likely hundreds of dead ISIS fighters later, is it surprising that ISIS would try to make an attack on French soil in retaliation. Absolutely no reason to support what ISIS is doing, but war is war, and when you declare war on another party there are bound to be consequences.
Why can't ISIS fight with some dignity rather than machine gunning and slaughtering unarmed civilians before running away like cowards.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
Because they don't have fighter jets to drop bombs then run away like cowards!!!
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Ironically, I was supposed to make a presentation today for the Lunch & Learn program at my synagogue on the issue of non-violence, but instead I'm sitting here typing away because I have the stomach flu.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
There's no good reason to kill anyone, but ALL of our leaders seem to believe some people have to die, this has got to change.
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
Most countries on the planet are non-participants and their leaders have little interest in joining this war.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
Most countries are non participants in war or killing of their civilians!! I think not.....
 

FunctionalAtheist

Hammer of Reason
ISIS is not Islam. They are abusiving name of Islam.
Hi Reza, We agree ISIS is not good islam.
Islam never authorits to kill civilians.
But ISIS believes there are no civilians. Everyone is good muslim, or at war with islam.
If ISIS terrorists are Muslim why they are killing people in Iraq and Syria?
Because ISIS believe muslim they kill are not good muslim. ISIS believe most muslim are false muslim.
Why US goverment helped ISIS several times? Can you belive that was mistake?
I believe this is a mistake. US government has helped groups in the past, maybe even now, that were terrorists. But I do not believe US ever helped ISIS.
Excuse me if I had some mistakes in English
 

FunctionalAtheist

Hammer of Reason
ISIS terrorist have some helps from France and some western contries. If you train a snake in your sleeves you must be sure that it will bite you first.
I think all of western countries most look for similiar goings on
I do not think ISIS had help from western governments. But it is true that western governments have made many mistakes on who they trained. I agree west must look at our own actions in all of this.
 
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