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Do We Really Need This Kind of Bigotry?

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Alceste

Alceste

Vagabond
LuisDantas said:
I'm not sure. A few pages ago we were talking about the Jewish People in general.
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Ok, well it is illegal for Jews to marry Non-Jews in Israel, and the government funds Lehava to the tune of $175,000 per year.

What does that tell you about Jewish people in general? Nothing, but it does tell you something about Israel.
 
Alceste

Alceste

Vagabond
LuisDantas said:
I have to agree. It is not something for Israel to be proud of.
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Likewise, the fact that the couple applied for an injunction against this bigoted, sexist group to protect themselves from harassment and it was denied is not something for Israel to be proud of.
 
LuisDantas

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
CynthiaCypher said:
Trying to prevent your sister from marrying a person of a different ethnic group is something a group of thugs would do.
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Certainly. But that is not in and of itself what makes them thugs.

It all comes down to how far they go in the trying. It is possible to respectfully oppose a personal decision of someone you care about, you know.
 
CynthiaCypher

CynthiaCypher

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LuisDantas said:
Certainly. But that is not in and of itself what makes them thugs.

It all comes down to how far they go in the trying. It is possible to respectfully oppose a personal decision of someone you care about, you know.
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Marching on someone's wedding chanting "Death to Arabs" with the intention of ruining their wedding day makes them thugs.
 
metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Alceste said:
I think it's kind of funny how many people here are arguing there is no bigotry involved when these idiots were chanting "death to Arabs".
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Still waiting for those names and numbers.

If you made a mistake, is it too much to ask you admit it?
 
ametist

ametist

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LuisDantas said:
Certainly. But that is not in and of itself what makes them thugs.

It all comes down to how far they go in the trying. It is possible to respectfully oppose a personal decision of someone you care about, you know.
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but it cant become a continous activity on all wowen.if one of family, you say you care, you give your advice and that's it. there are also somethings you have no right of opposing. let alone it being respectful. when a person will eat, what s/he will eat, who they will love or respect.
 
LuisDantas

LuisDantas

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ametist said:
but it cant become a continous activity on all wowen.if one of family, you say you care, you give your advice and that's it. there are also somethings you have no right of opposing. let alone it being respectful. when a person will eat, what s/he will eat, who they will love or respect.
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Well, it is technically possible to oppose eating habits, but I think I see your point.
 
metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
CynthiaCypher said:
Well when I suggested that sexism was involved you were kind of taken aback.
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Only because I wasn't aware she was just referring to just that one group as I explained in post #119. Secondly, this still does not absolve her of the fact that she said some here were defending the words of the protesters against Arabs, and both LD and I asked whom supposedly did this, and she won't respond.
 
CynthiaCypher

CynthiaCypher

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metis said:
Only because I wasn't aware she was just referring to just that one group as I explained in post #119. Secondly, this still does not absolve her of the fact that she said some here were defending the words of the protesters against Arabs, and both LD and I asked whom supposedly did this, and she won't respond.
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Well there are some here who did suggest that opposition to "intermarriage" is not bigotry. And that sort of is an apologetic for what these protesters are doing.
 
Alceste

Alceste

Vagabond
metis said:
Only because I wasn't aware she was just referring to just that one group as I explained in post #119. Secondly, this still does not absolve her of the fact that she said some here were defending the words of the protesters against Arabs, and both LD and I asked whom supposedly did this, and she won't respond.
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Levite, Luis Dantas, Jayhawker and many others all defended the group's racist ideology to some degree or other while (faintly, Imo) criticizing their tactics.

The specific form of defense was denying that Lehava's ideology is fundamentally bigoted and glossing over the "death to Arabs" aspect of the group.
 
CynthiaCypher

CynthiaCypher

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Alceste said:
Levite, Luis Dantas, Jayhawker and many others all defended the group's racist ideology to some degree or other while (faintly, Imo) criticizing their tactics.

The specific form of defense was denying that Lehava's ideology is fundamentally bigoted and glossing over the "death to Arabs" aspect of the group.
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She is correct. I saw all this too.
 
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