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Do We Really Need This Kind of Bigotry?

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metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
From Reuters today:

RISHON LEZION, Israel, Aug 17 (Reuters) - Israeli police on Sunday blocked more than 200 far-right Israeli protesters from rushing guests at a wedding of a Jewish woman and Muslim man as they shouted "death to the Arabs" in a sign of tensions stoked by the Gaza war.

Several dozen police, including members of the force's most elite units, formed human chains to keep the protesters from the wedding hall's gates and chased after many who defied them. Four protesters were arrested, and there were no injuries...

Protesters, many of them young men wearing black shirts, denounced Malka, who was born Jewish and converted to Islam before the wedding, as a "traitor against the Jewish state," and shouted epithets of hatred towards Arabs including "death to the Arabs." They sang a song that urges, "May your village burn down."

A few dozen left-wing Israelis held a counter-protest nearby holding flowers, balloons and a sign that read: "Love conquers all."

Israeli President Reuven Rivlin, sworn in last month to succeed Shimon Peres, criticized the protest as a "cause for outrage and concern" in a message on his Facebook page.

"Such expressions undermine the basis of our coexistence here, in Israel, a country that is both Jewish and democratic," Rivlin, a member of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's right-wing Likud bloc, said... -- Wedding Of Jew, Muslim Draws Hundreds Of Protesters

To me, as one whom also has a mixed marriage, the protesters I believe are acting in a terribly disgusting manner.
 
Levite

Levite

Higher and Higher
metis said:
From Reuters today:

RISHON LEZION, Israel, Aug 17 (Reuters) - Israeli police on Sunday blocked more than 200 far-right Israeli protesters from rushing guests at a wedding of a Jewish woman and Muslim man as they shouted "death to the Arabs" in a sign of tensions stoked by the Gaza war.

Several dozen police, including members of the force's most elite units, formed human chains to keep the protesters from the wedding hall's gates and chased after many who defied them. Four protesters were arrested, and there were no injuries...

Protesters, many of them young men wearing black shirts, denounced Malka, who was born Jewish and converted to Islam before the wedding, as a "traitor against the Jewish state," and shouted epithets of hatred towards Arabs including "death to the Arabs." They sang a song that urges, "May your village burn down."

A few dozen left-wing Israelis held a counter-protest nearby holding flowers, balloons and a sign that read: "Love conquers all."

Israeli President Reuven Rivlin, sworn in last month to succeed Shimon Peres, criticized the protest as a "cause for outrage and concern" in a message on his Facebook page.

"Such expressions undermine the basis of our coexistence here, in Israel, a country that is both Jewish and democratic," Rivlin, a member of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's right-wing Likud bloc, said... -- Wedding Of Jew, Muslim Draws Hundreds Of Protesters

To me, as one whom also has a mixed marriage, the protesters I believe are acting in a terribly disgusting manner.
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I am firmly opposed to intermarriage, and I still think those protesters were acting in a terribly disgusting manner.
 
Saint Frankenstein

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
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metis said:
A few dozen left-wing Israelis held a counter-protest nearby holding flowers, balloons and a sign that read: "Love conquers all."
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God bless their souls. :)

Anyway, no one needs that kind of horrific hate. As a mixed black/white person, myself, this is especially offensive. What the hell are those people, the Jewish version of the KKK?! I bet they would've lynched the couple, or at least the man! :eek:
 
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Sees

Sees

Dragonslayer
Very nutty of them to think they have a say in the marriage and to use it for their protesting.
 
Sunstone

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
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metis said:
From Reuters today:

RISHON LEZION, Israel, Aug 17 (Reuters) - Israeli police on Sunday blocked more than 200 far-right Israeli protesters from rushing guests at a wedding of a Jewish woman and Muslim man as they shouted "death to the Arabs" in a sign of tensions stoked by the Gaza war.

Several dozen police, including members of the force's most elite units, formed human chains to keep the protesters from the wedding hall's gates and chased after many who defied them. Four protesters were arrested, and there were no injuries...

Protesters, many of them young men wearing black shirts, denounced Malka, who was born Jewish and converted to Islam before the wedding, as a "traitor against the Jewish state," and shouted epithets of hatred towards Arabs including "death to the Arabs." They sang a song that urges, "May your village burn down."

A few dozen left-wing Israelis held a counter-protest nearby holding flowers, balloons and a sign that read: "Love conquers all."

Israeli President Reuven Rivlin, sworn in last month to succeed Shimon Peres, criticized the protest as a "cause for outrage and concern" in a message on his Facebook page.

"Such expressions undermine the basis of our coexistence here, in Israel, a country that is both Jewish and democratic," Rivlin, a member of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's right-wing Likud bloc, said... -- Wedding Of Jew, Muslim Draws Hundreds Of Protesters

To me, as one whom also has a mixed marriage, the protesters I believe are acting in a terribly disgusting manner.
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Well, the good news is the protesters could not prevent the couple from getting married.
 
Saint Frankenstein

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
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Sunstone said:
In all fairness to Levite, I wouldn't characterize him as racist, tribalist, nor bigoted.
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Saying that you oppose "intermarriage" is racist/tribalist/bigoted (take your pick). As a mixed person, that is offensive to me. I believe that we're all God's children and brothers and sisters. You should marry the one you love, no matter who they are.
 
Sunstone

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
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Saint Frankenstein said:
Saying that you oppose "intermarriage" is racist/tribalist/bigoted (take your pick).
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Your original language seemed to me to indicate that you were accusing Levite of being a racist, tribalist, or bigot. If so, that's going too far.

You should marry the one you love, no matter who they are.
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Well, we can at least agree on that.
 
LuisDantas

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
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CynthiaCypher said:
So it isn't about religion, it's about something else. And what is that something else?
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Hey, I know the answer to this one!

It is about having been raised as a member of the Jewish People, or else voluntarily earned one's own place among them despite that.

I have learned to think of them as an extended family of unusually big size.

Levite's opposition to mixed marriages is not racist, or at least I do not perceive it as such. He seems to be very willing to accept people of any background or ethnic origin into the ranks of those he calls faith brothers... as long as they convert into Judaism.

Having been on occasion expected to act and speak as if I were a believer in faiths I never dreamed of joining, I can't help but approve.

Besides, and this is a very significant fact, for all that he is indeed fiercely opposed to mixed marriages (defined as those between a member of the Jewish People and someone who has not chosen to become one), he does not presume to make them punishable or anything. Ultimately, he just disapproves of them.

That might be tribalist by some understandings of the word, but I can't in good faith call it bigoted or prejudiced, much less racist or hateful.
 
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