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The reasons why hundreds of Pagans converted to Christianity

That's why they were not afraid of dying, when the Romans fed them to lions: because they knew they would go to Heaven

You do realize that the English word heaven translates into Hebrew as sky, as in the sky with clouds? The word heaven as most modern Christians know it as a trans-dimensional place where spirits go ect. did not exist at that time ( the concept of which). I think they thought they would be literally resurrected.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
How so?, they all surround and factually contain mythology. :facepalm:

All right, I was talking about the Roman context. The religion of the Romans didn't promise divine justice. That's the reason of Christianity success in the Roman empire.

I don't doubt that lots of Soteric religions promised Heaven for the good.

besides...my thread is about reflecting upon a very simple concept. Christianity was successful because of people's wickedness.
So it was necessary a religion about Universal Love. That's how Paganism decayed
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
All right, I was talking about the Roman context. The religion of the Romans didn't promise divine justice. That's the reason of Christianity success in the Roman empire.

I don't doubt that lots of Soteric religions promised Heaven for the good.

besides...my thread is about reflecting upon a very simple concept. Christianity was successful because of people's wickedness.
So it was necessary a religion about Universal Love. That's how Paganism decayed

Yes, it did "decay" as you put it, but it has made a comeback, as well.
Christianity had a good sell job, and, being that it started out not truly being a religion (what I mean by that,is Jesus didn't appear to start a new faith), it was rather easy to incorporate parts of other religions into it. I don't think we can deny that Christianity, as it stands now, is not wholly based on what Jesus taught but has elements of other faiths, including Paganism incorporated into it.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Yes, it did "decay" as you put it, but it has made a comeback, as well.
Christianity had a good sell job, and, being that it started out not truly being a religion (what I mean by that,is Jesus didn't appear to start a new faith), it was rather easy to incorporate parts of other religions into it. I don't think we can deny that Christianity, as it stands now, is not wholly based on what Jesus taught but has elements of other faiths, including Paganism incorporated into it.

Did I talk about Jesus? I talked about his teachings which are written, whether Jesus really existed or not.
Lots of people believe that these words come from God, that are:

---Love thy neighbor as much as thyself
---Whatever you do to your neighbor, you do it to God
---Turn the other cheek
---Love your enemies and love those who hate you
 

Looncall

Well-Known Member
All right, I was talking about the Roman context. The religion of the Romans didn't promise divine justice. That's the reason of Christianity success in the Roman empire.

I don't doubt that lots of Soteric religions promised Heaven for the good.

besides...my thread is about reflecting upon a very simple concept. Christianity was successful because of people's wickedness.
So it was necessary a religion about Universal Love. That's how Paganism decayed

I don't buy it. The Roman empire had a lot of mystery religions around, such as Mithraism.
Christianity wasn't that special until an emperor picked it for a state religion.

In other places, such as Scandinavia, much the same happened.

Christianity spread partly because it is a handy way for rulers to get power.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
That's the reason of Christianity success in the Roman empire.

You need to take classes on this subject before blurting out errors.


Christianities success is due to the one all powerful god Hellenist were following for hundreds of years before its divorce from Judaism.

Monotheism was becoming worldwide because it was the best game in town.


It made more sense to worship the heavenly all powerful god through the "son of god"

Then the living Emperor who was viewed as corrupt politician and the first "son of god"
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
It made more sense to worship the heavenly all powerful god through the "son of god"

Then the living Emperor who was viewed as corrupt politician and the first "son of god"

You are practically confirming what I said. Thank you. That is, the reason of why Christianity was so successful
The living Emperor, because of his wickedness lost credibility compared to the son of God, who was pure, sinless, altruistic and good

the emperor lost this battle because of his selfishness.
selfishness is doomed to lose, whether you like it or not

he was not viewed as a corrupt politician. he was a corrupt politician.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
I don't buy it. The Roman empire had a lot of mystery religions around, such as Mithraism.
Christianity wasn't that special until an emperor picked it for a state religion.

.

Not really true brother.

Chrsitianity was the most popular, Constantine was a genius of sports and went with what he viewed as the soon to be future religion and made it so, trying to stay one step ahead of the game.


Not only has christianity huge at that time, it was gaining more popularity
 

Draupadi

Active Member
It's wrong to say that pagan religions have no concept of punishing the evil people. They had the concept of karma and some faiths had temporary heaven and hell. IMHO eternal damnation for just not believing in a particular God is more inhumane.
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
Did I talk about Jesus? I talked about his teachings which are written, whether Jesus really existed or not.
Lots of people believe that these words come from God, that are:

---Love thy neighbor as much as thyself
---Whatever you do to your neighbor, you do it to God
---Turn the other cheek
---Love your enemies and love those who hate you

Huh? I don't understand. :shrug:
I was trying to say that Christianity was not a religion at first so that others could influence it and that the teachings of Jesus were not to start a new religion in the first place.

If you speak of Christianity, you are automatically speaking of the one whom the teachings belong to: Jesus. So, yes, you were speaking of Jesus.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
It's wrong to say that pagan religions have no concept of punishing the evil people. They had the concept of karma and some faiths had temporary heaven and hell. IMHO eternal damnation for just not believing in a particular God is more inhumane.

because it's eternal? well...it's not something done on purpose.
it's just because in the afterlife there is neither time nor space, so any thing is eternal
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
Not really true brother.

Chrsitianity was the most popular, Constantine was a genius of sports and went with what he viewed as the soon to be future religion and made it so, trying to stay one step ahead of the game.


Not only has christianity huge at that time, it was gaining more popularity

Yes, I agree. The teachings of Jesus were very popular because they were so easy to follow. It would be safe to say that it was huge. :) (I appreciate your knowledge, outhouse).
 

Draupadi

Active Member
Not really true brother.

Chrsitianity was the most popular, Constantine was a genius of sports and went with what he viewed as the soon to be future religion and made it so, trying to stay one step ahead of the game.


Not only has christianity huge at that time, it was gaining more popularity

Not only that but he also mixed some pagan traditions with Christianity. Of course the Christians won't accept it but it'OK. And I don't want to belittle the faith with this belief of mine.
 

Draupadi

Active Member
because it's eternal? well...it's not something done on purpose.
it's just because in the afterlife there is neither time nor space, so any thing is eternal

The Bible and the Quran mentions eternity. These books never said that we can wriggle out of it.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Not only that but he also mixed some pagan traditions with Christianity. Of course the Christians won't accept it but it'OK. And I don't want to belittle the faith with this belief of mine.

well...actually Christianity was enriched with positive pagan traditions.
what's wrong with that?

Christianity just rejected the dark side of Paganism: selfishness, money-hunger, greed
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
I think it human nature to want to put some of our own beliefs into something else, which is why religions pretty much adapt.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Yes, I agree. The teachings of Jesus were very popular because they were so easy to follow. It would be safe to say that it was huge. :) (I appreciate your knowledge, outhouse).

yes, being good and altruistic is easier than being selfish and greedy
 

Draupadi

Active Member
well...actually Christianity was enriched with positive pagan traditions.
what's wrong with that?

Christianity just rejected the dark side of Paganism: selfishness, money-hunger, greed

And that was one of the reasons why conversion was easy.
 
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