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Science does what God(s) cannot.

Kilgore Trout

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
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Hawkins

Well-Known Member
Quatermass said:
Her reaction is so heart-warming and uplifting indeed. Science is, once again, doing the work that God(s) cannot or will not do.
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God's mission here is to save souls, not bodies. Moreover, what's the point of repairing your body then later on put you to hell? It doesn't make any sense for God to repair your body, unless He would like a miracle as a mean for His salvation work.
 
applewuud

applewuud

Active Member
Or, God does its/her/his work through science and human beings. Or, God places the desire to help people in human hearts.

A belief in the forces that create and uphold life isn't dependent upon a belief in miracles. :facepalm:
 
Akivah

Akivah

Well-Known Member
Quatermass said:
Joanne Milne: Woman hears for first time after her new cochlear implants switched on at the Queen Elizabeth Hospital - Birmingham Mail

Her reaction is so heart-warming and uplifting indeed. Science is, once again, doing the work that God(s) cannot or will not do.
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If this world were all about the good being rich, beautiful, or healthy the question might make some sense. But that is not why G-d created man or the earth. We are here to grow spiritually. People do not grow from having things handed to them on a silver platter. We grow through trial and tribulation.

It has often been said that we cannot change many of the things around us, but we can change our attitude. When faced with trials, choose ways to turn those lemons into lemonade. Choose to find the light in the darkest corner. Heal the world and begin with yourself. And learn from the experience along the way.
 
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FranklinMichaelV.3

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Akivah said:
If this world were all about the good being rich, beautiful, or healthy the question might make some sense. But that is not why G-d created man or the earth. We are here to grow spiritually. People do not grow from having things handed to them on a silver platter. We grow through trial and tribulation.

It has often been said that we cannot change many of the things around us, but we can change our attitude. When faced with trials, choose ways to turn those lemons into lemonade. Choose to find the light in the darkest corner. Heal the world and begin with yourself. And learn from the experience along the way.
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But is it necessary I.e could God not have created a world where people grow from positives? In fact it would seem that tribulations are very damaging to people especially when it occurs to children. I've worked at a prison and while I am skeptical to how honest their stories are I encountered a large amount of people who has gone through tribulations and due to that they now are I prisoner with a host of psychological issues. Now that's not to say that some haven't grown from that, but there are also plenty who did not go through such tribulations who have also grown. So what degree of tribulation is needed to actually foster spiritual growth and why are some subjected to torture compared to others?

I know a girl who was raped would you say that she's now going to go through that tribulation? How about those with PTSD from war torn areas? What if they don't grow which a lot of them don't what would you say to them?
 
rusra02

rusra02

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Quatermass said:
Joanne Milne: Woman hears for first time after her new cochlear implants switched on at the Queen Elizabeth Hospital - Birmingham Mail

Her reaction is so heart-warming and uplifting indeed. Science is, once again, doing the work that God(s) cannot or will not do.
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Modern medicine does some good in improving health and prolonging life. But God's purpose is far grander and longer lasting than anything possible today by modern science. God promises to " wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore."(Revelation 21:4) Jesus Christ displayed God's ability and desire to heal mankind, by miraculously healing all sorts of infirmities, and even raising the dead. Man's cures are temporary, God's cures are everlasting.
 
Akivah

Akivah

Well-Known Member
FranklinMichaelV.3 said:
But is it necessary I.e could God not have created a world where people grow from positives? In fact it would seem that tribulations are very damaging to people especially when it occurs to children. ...{snip}...So what degree of tribulation is needed to actually foster spiritual growth and why are some subjected to torture compared to others?
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The lack of tribulations can also be damaging. Humans, on the whole, seem to fare better when we have obstacles to overcome.
 
Skwim

Skwim

Veteran Member
Hawkins said:
God's mission here is to save souls, not bodies. Moreover, what's the point of repairing your body then later on put you to hell? It doesn't make any sense for God to repair your body, unless He would like a miracle as a mean for His salvation work.
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And what's the point of investing a soul with sin only to save it later on?
 
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