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Are These Grounds for Legalizing Pedophilia?

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
If the overwhelming weight of scientific evidence indicated that pedophilia were an inheritable sexual orientation, like heterosexuality, would you favor legalizing it on those grounds alone? Why or why not?
 

Gjallarhorn

N'yog-Sothep
If the overwhelming weight of scientific evidence indicated that pedophilia were an inheritable sexual orientation, like heterosexuality, would you favor legalizing it on those grounds alone? Why or why not?

Nope. There are indications that psychopathic behavior is partly genetic as well (decreased empathy, higher-strung emotions), but genetics alone do not override consent: murder or sex.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Nope. Lack of informed consent from one party.
There are a lot of things that are outside of a person's control, but it is not in the interests of society to try and judge these based on the perspective of the individual, to be honest.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Nope. There are indications that psychopathic behavior is partly genetic as well (decreased empathy, higher-strung emotions), but genetics alone do not override consent: murder or sex.

Nope. Lack of informed consent from one party.
There are a lot of things that are outside of a person's control, but it is not in the interests of society to try and judge these based on the perspective of the individual, to be honest.

What? But...but...if homosexual relationships are legit because sexual orientation is innate, then doesn't that mean pedophilic relationships are legit if pedophilia turns out to be a sexual orientation? Don't you guys recognize your responsibility to assert that there's a slippery slope?
 

Gjallarhorn

N'yog-Sothep
What? But...but...if homosexual relationships are legit, then doesn't that mean pedophilic relationships are legit? Don't you guys recognize your responsibility to assert that there's a slippery slope?

Only if I'm allowed to assert that religious tolerance will inevitably result in anarchy and feces-flinging.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
If the overwhelming weight of scientific evidence indicated that pedophilia were an inheritable sexual orientation, like heterosexuality, would you favor legalizing it on those grounds alone? Why or why not?

Hi.....

if paedophilia was proved to be an inheritable sexual orientation then it might help the social, medical, legislative and judicial 'worlds' to understand it better, and possibly be more sympathetic.

But....... it is already proved (imo) that minors can make bad decisions and to suffer greatly later on, as maturity shows them their true and natural paths.

Ergo...... Legalising paedophilia would be disastrous (imo). The question begs, what is the correct age for 'consent'? Clearly this is not fixed, as shown by the wide variety of laws that exist in countries and even individual States.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
I believe pedophilia is really just another sexual orientation and that having those attractions in of itself is neutral, but I don't support legalizing sex between pre-pubescent children and adults. Physically, pre-pubescent children are not developed enough to handle sex, particularly with adults.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
I believe pedophilia is really just another sexual orientation and that having those attractions in of itself is neutral, but I don't support legalizing sex between pre-pubescent children and adults. Physically, pre-pubescent children are not developed enough to handle sex, particularly with adults.

Hello SF!

What do you think the age of consent should be? Marriage is allowed in some US States at 13, I believe? The UK AoC is 16 yrs..... but what is correct?
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
Hello SF!

What do you think the age of consent should be? Marriage is allowed in some US States at 13, I believe? The UK AoC is 16 yrs..... but what is correct?

Honestly, I really don't know. It's very complicated. People reach puberty at different ages and emotionally mature at different ages. I think it's better to take it on a case by case basis. You can't really make a blanket judgment on it.

The age of consent in the US is either 16 or 18. It varies by state.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
What? But...but...if homosexual relationships are legit because sexual orientation is innate, then doesn't that mean pedophilic relationships are legit if pedophilia turns out to be a sexual orientation? Don't you guys recognize your responsibility to assert that there's a slippery slope?

Doesn't it suck when you build a bear trap, and all you catch are fluffy bunnies?

:D
 

dawny0826

Mother Heathen
If the overwhelming weight of scientific evidence indicated that pedophilia were an inheritable sexual orientation, like heterosexuality, would you favor legalizing it on those grounds alone? Why or why not?

NO.

Certain mental illnesses are inheritable, but do we legalize heinous acts such as rape and murder simply because someone couldn't help themselves? No.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Marriage with parental consent is allowed as young as 13 in Illinois, 12 in Arkansas, and perhaps those ages elsewhere too.

Good point.

Kids here seem be sexually mature at 12 ish. But...... if a 25yr old adult was to cross the 16yr line it could mean many years in prison, attacks in the street, etc.

Our system does seem to recognise that young teens do have relationships and do have sex...... a kind of 'blind eye' situation, but the (big) penalties kick in at a certain age...... maybe where an 18 yr old breaks the law. I don't know......
 

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
Its okay for people to be pedophiles. Really it is.

But only if they dont touch kids because kids cant consent. Simple as that.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
Good point.

Kids here seem be sexually mature at 12 ish. But...... if a 25yr old adult was to cross the 16yr line it could mean many years in prison, attacks in the street, etc.

Our system does seem to recognise that young teens do have relationships and do have sex...... a kind of 'blind eye' situation, but the (big) penalties kick in at a certain age...... maybe where an 18 yr old breaks the law. I don't know......

16 is the age of consent where I live. Sometimes it's higher when dealing with people in authority positions. In Ohio, you can marry at 16 with parental consent and marriage counseling. You might have to contact the Probate Court, too.
 
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