The Bible and aliens

[robocop (actually)]

Hi!
The avatar does not mean Adolf Hitler who stole the inside; it originally meant love and peace for thousands of years and all over the East. For us it means "infinity in time and space" and "genius to our creators.

Our creators are not "God", but aliens. I would like to know what you think about the Bible from Genesis 1 to about the end of Luke. As a Raelian I think that the word for "God" in the Bible means "those who came from the sky". You can translate "those who came from the sky" in a translate engine and it should start and end with the letters of "God."

Anyway I promise to be honest, direct and respectful and appeal to an angry poster as best I can. My IQ is 127; I can't just beat everyone intellectually but I feel that my position the aliens are the "Gods" of the Bible is strong. I'd like to hear what you think.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

I think it is interesting to draw connections to mythic tales of how it could've been extraterrestrial related instead of on behalf of spiritual forces. For example; Noah's Ark being a DNA Bank in a flying saucer, the Virgin Birth being Artificial Insemination, Eve coming of Adam's rib via DNA cloning done by aliens, Phaeton driving his father's chariot and burning the earth was actually aliens trying to set the earth ablaze, etc.

But to actually believe it, I'd have to be really convinced. I think it's extemely possible, it all makes sense once you make the connections, but you can draw other parallels as well that wouldn't even contradict, such as the alien parallel, such as Jesus being a time traveler wanting worship, or God being a giant company having public domain over mankind. It doesn't matter if it makes sense, it can still be false.

Although, my major belief is that if you believe it, it is 100% true to you, and we are all entitled to our opinions, so I welcome you here.

 

[robocop (actually)]

Our good friends the scientologists in the directory next door believe that we were just showed a video and believed it as history when it might have been educating. Certainly when they say faith without works is dead, you're not kidding yourself if you search for things you don't know. t\that, and no counter-evidence seen (I've been raelian since 8/6/09) is what I call proving or being on my way to proving the Bible is an alien-based book.

You seem concerned about scientific descriptions still being mystical tales. the more you're in reality (not Jesus time-travelling, and not G-d public domain), even if it does make sense, the more you will find it in the Bible and Bible codes.

Noah's bank relates to us that there could be small computers anywhere calculating and biding their time to produce life when they think they can take over.

Anytime you colonize a planet, life might be hiding. Noah's Ark going into the sky is more plausible because of nukes causing tidal waves. Gen 7:24 - First the water fell back down, Gen 6:16 - the rocket is described with three levels like ours, and Gen 6:16 - then the lack of water vapor in the sky produced huge trade winds, to disperse radioactivity. Another post to come.

 

[robocop (actually)]

It says in Gen 6:12 that "sons of G-d" made intercourse with fair daughters of men. In Matt 1:18, yes, Jesus was half-human, half "G-d". His "miracles" were scientific. For instance, if his father turned on a repulsion ray as Jesus walked on the water, lighter water on top makes it propel. The "miracles', I just suggest, meant that he had a relationship with his Heavenly Father who could do things we know are plausible, but he had a human side too. Sorry I'm lacking evidence here.

But in Ezekiel 37:1-10, cloning is mentioned in great detail. In Ezekiel, which is pretty good proof, the author knew things way ahead of time. We have just now cloned human life.

I don't know who Phaeton is.

My point is, instead of explaining away science as mystical, why not explain things as scientific once the scientific evidence comes in that we couldn't have known all these things?

 

[robocop (actually)]

Dear Awe-sum,

I thought I should clarify some things. I don't know much about time travel, but I am confident I haven't seen it in the Bible. However, I agree with you that Jesus sought popularity.

He wanted to be popular and preach science so that much later when the science was there, people could understand who he was and prepare for people to meet him. See Mark 16:18 - pay particular attention on laying on of hands; first people used to put oil on people and bless their head, then people also did surgery, and now we are also doing over half of our surgeries with robots!

 

[RobertAlexander]

I think we were created by the Elohim.

 

[ladybug77]

I think were all half human and half alien. BUT that there are other alien species out there...that our NOT what we are...we have the capability to vibrate at different frequencies...like jesus does. Like me try to explain...point of reference is best. If the earth was a radio. The actual radio...and within the earth signals...or frequencies...if we are in tune to the same frequency...of 7 for example...we precieve the world around us the same...this also explains why some people can have encounters with ghost. Because that perticular person is intune to frequency 7...AND 6. So they see the channels in the middle. Once we tune our frequencies...is when we can 'time-travel' per say. But some alien species are bad...and want our planet to inhabit. So be careful...not all ships in the sky, are Luke Skywalker...some are 'darth Vader'...putting that lighlty of course...but its all theory.

 

[robocop (actually)]

Two great posts (and Sum of Awe)! RobertAlexander (reality under construction), would you like to share more of what you think or learn more from others?
Ladybug77, I have thought about this time travel idea before, and I see, now that two of you posted about it, just how well this type of time travel actually makes sense and how deep it gets! I decided it was worth learning about a lot more and that it is more likely to be in the Bible. I have at least 3-5 Bible verses lined up now! If you’d like me to explain your time travel idea clearly (explicitly and comprehensively), I believe I can, and that I will yet learn more doing it.
Would you like me to try to explain it?
I will have to time travel to Monday or later and pick up the presentation I worked on then, because I want to know everything about time travel except the equations before I post. Note that Sabbath days have frequencies of 7 days.:run:

 

[1137]

I like the alien interpretations of religion, being both interesting and fantastically blasphemous. However, translating myths to be about aliens does not change the original fact that it is myth, not a historical event. For example, the flood story likely came from the time the Black Sea (I'm pretty sure) flooded the surrounding lands.

 

[ladybug77]

I like the alien interpretations of religion, being both interesting and fantastically blasphemous. However, translating myths to be about aliens does not change the original fact that it is myth, not a historical event. For example, the flood story likely came from the time the Black Sea (I'm pretty sure) flooded the surrounding lands.

Go back far enough...and its all myth. No history documented. i mean...the T-Rex existed...but did it have feathers? Or scales? Understand the metaphor? We have Truth...and the possibilties that fit inside it.

 

[1137]

Go back far enough...and its all myth. No history documented. i mean...the T-Rex existed...but did it have feathers? Or scales? Understand the metaphor? We have Truth...and the possibilties that fit inside it.

Yeah but that doesn't prove aliens. In fact, if a hyper advanced civilization had been around they could have kept a detailed history.

 

[ladybug77]

Yeah but that doesn't prove aliens. In fact, if a hyper advanced civilization had been around they could have kept a detailed history.

Indeed. Or they could have hidden the history for various reasons. We dont need to prove aliens...we just need to acknowledge the possibilty.

 

[robocop (actually)]

Yes, Gen 1:26 assures we are similar to those who came from the sky, but other aliens could go back in time and change that and change our image.

I imagine the Milky Way blinking in and out things, regardless of supposed time and space, like a gigantic Stratego game, and asteroid belts could contain life, be like blood vessels, or be like bullets from a machine gun.

Imagine the earth, the solar system, or the Milky Way as the main object. First of all, there can be actual radio waves that people can pick up. They might be encrypted for some alien species to try to communicate with and without others. They might be for different sizes, shapes, and speeds of atoms where people can be organized on different material planes, and there would have to be some sort of special atom get-together (for ghosts), or it could be a hoax put on by the aliens. Another way this can happen is that things can be moved around. There can be banks of information, experimental living locations, and places ready to fight, and gravity-like forces can move them all around. Places could get volcano-ed, sun-flared, or nova-ed by the fieriness of the main object and have more turns. I am saying different turns from different spaces and times could show up at different times in the same part of the main object. Also, like the tea cups at Disneyland, information can travel rapidly across one rotation where it happens to meet up well with another, causing lots of high speed networks, but only with knowledge about the geometry. A fast moving tunnel works too.

 

[robocop (actually)]

If two waves intersect each other, there could be a division in otherwise small matter at the point of the division, and "artificial time travel": (see scriptures at bottom). This is only my theory that I picked up from scriptures.

Consider a loop that a part will go through, like an earth making one sun-revolution. The amplitude will decrease in previous locations as it trails out of existence in the past. If you go to the intersection, and insert a wave in a place to go to the future , then amplify it, the wave will carry across the loop, and the future will change there to match the signal that was placed earlier in the same place. We know lots of examples of time travel to the future (in fact, they all involve returning to a point and feeling the turn), but what about the past? We can do our same loop experiment, but send back information to the start point that's big and amplified, then as it approaches lower the amplitude until it has changed what was sent to the past. You don't get to go to the past, but you change it. Resurrection and life-sustaining are possible. Also, different loops can make for different amounts of travel, like an earth orbit around the sun and around the Milky Way. Note that it may be very hard to pick what to change to get the desired result.

 

[1137]

Indeed. Or they could have hidden the history for various reasons. We dont need to prove aliens...we just need to acknowledge the possibilty.

Fair enough.

 

[robocop (actually)]

Two problems present themselves: what if you cause a huge disturbance? It just goes to the smaller matter mixing across the radio waves earth emitted by the travel. What if say you are doing it to the earth and Jupiter gets in the way. Then each signal crossed together has the stronger signal win, or win proportionally to the space of the signals.

Quote Scriptures: So from Gen 1:1- we know this is important because there could be competing aliens - even to have created us. In Gen 1:21 - waters are a sea of waves, but instead of tuning in, "G-d" moves about on them, as you have seen in my explanation of loops. In Gen 1:5, we learn a day which could be in respect to the earth, sun, or Milky Way center. It is the same loop I have presented to you as a way to possible time travel, even backwards. Gen 1:14 - this shows that the main object can show signs (like time travel for one if it is possible), and days and years can take turns and then be replaced earlier or after in different spaces, and then seasons means that places can be similar in one location, like earth in one frequency, allowing for time travel. Without these seasons everything would be different, and time-travel would cause completely random things. Seasons may be lined up along natural orbits of gravity and such. Note it chose the sun as the main object. In Gen 3:24, I consider the tree of life a machine that pops out living things in their appropriate frequencies, like human fetuses go through phases of animals, and going into more and more powerful groups. The earth is an extremely strong thing, that can probably go through extreme pain if not successful. Human beings are scientific enough that they are allowed to grow in knowledge and allowed to transmit as much information on each main object as they have.

I don't know of other scriptures, but Genesis seems like it would be the only appropriate book.

 

[nazz]

Our creators are not "God", but aliens.

Let's turn it around. Maybe "aliens" are gods?

 

[ladybug77]

Its all about frequency, vibration, and the awareness of seperate realms. Understand the concepts of frequency and vibration...then reread the bible. Remember the bible is not written by God though...and its 'holy' because its rather incomplete. I suggest the study of the 12 dimensions of conscienceness, parallel worlds, and how holograms work...with an open-mind only! Then simply contemplate...you will be surprised what you conclude. But its still only theory...

 

[1137]

Its all about frequency, vibration, and the awareness of seperate realms. Understand the concepts of frequency and vibration...then reread the bible. Remember the bible is not written by God though...and its 'holy' because its rather incomplete. I suggest the study of the 12 dimensions of conscienceness, parallel worlds, and how holograms work...with an open-mind only! Then simply contemplate...you will be surprised what you conclude. But its still only theory...

Do these 12 dimensions of consciousness, or these ideas in general, tie in to / with sacred geometry? They sound familiar and I was into sacred geometry for a while (I still love it, I just don't think SG as a religious view works).

Can you give some links you recommend? I find these concepts far more interesting that the banal concepts discussed over and over with the average person.

 

[nazz]

As a Raelian I think that the word for "God" in the Bible means "those who came from the sky". You can translate "those who came from the sky" in a translate engine and it should start and end with the letters of "God."

Okay I did that and this is what it gave me: אלה שבאו מהשמיים

Not even close

Regarding the Tetragrammaton and its possible meaning see:

Tetragrammaton - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia