Hi Pegg,
Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!
You asked:
"if there was no Law given to Abraham, what was it about him that made him righteous in Gods eyes."
Simply put, OBEDIENCE! (see Romans 2:13) No where have I stated that no law was given to Abraham. Abraham was given a whole lot of insight (John 8:56) and instruction from YAHWEH ELOHIM; yet, Abraham was not given the Law Covenant as given through Moses.
I think that you said it best to Ken Brown:
"Abraham did not have the mosaic law....but the example he gave to his children was to obey God in whatever God asked. He led by example to the point of willingly offering up his son isaac in sacrifice at Gods request."
And not only that but YAHWEH ELOHIM testifies of Abraham in this manner:
Genesis 18:19
19 For I know him, that he will command his children and his household after him, and they shall keep the way of YAHWEH, to do justice and judgment; that YAHWEH may bring upon Abraham that which he hath spoken of him.
Notice that the Children and Household of Abraham are under obligation to fulfill Abraham's instruction (charge) to them so that YAHWEH HIMSELF is not proven to be liar. If the Sabbath Commandment was given to Abraham, then the Sons of Abraham must of necessity observe that commandment so that the Word of YAHWEH would in the end prove to be true. A clear record of Sabbath observance would of necessity be visible amongst the Children right down to Moses and Sinai. No such observance is seen.
I therefore personally believe that Genesis 18:19 is written for the Seed of Abraham, that is, My Messiah Yahushua.
Prior to the giving of the Law of Moses, any son or descendant of Abraham could step forward and claim to be the Seed as long as they themselves like Abraham fully kept any Word of YAHWEH which had been personally given to them and/or to mankind prior to them. After the giving of the Law, this becomes a monumental task and obligation.
My Messiah Yahushua accepted this charge (see Matthew 5:17), and not only My Messiah but also all those who have graciously been delivered to HIM through HIS fulfillment of the Law. In other words, Pegg, all those who belong to My Messiah also now have the same obligation (charge) with respect to our Father, Abraham. All such through Messiah are of the Household of ELOHIM, and all such are also children of ELOHIM through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH (see Galatians 3:29)!
Now, Pegg, where does all this leave you? It leaves you without any hope in the world because you do not claim to be a part of Messiah Yahushua, that is, you do not claim to be a part of the Seed, and you therefore can't share in the Promises given to Abraham and to the Seed. Even so, do you yourself feel any obligation to Abraham at all? Have you yourself somehow accepted his command to his children?
Thanking you in advance should you be moved to reply, I am,
Sincerely, Latuwr
Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!
You asked:
"if there was no Law given to Abraham, what was it about him that made him righteous in Gods eyes."
Simply put, OBEDIENCE! (see Romans 2:13) No where have I stated that no law was given to Abraham. Abraham was given a whole lot of insight (John 8:56) and instruction from YAHWEH ELOHIM; yet, Abraham was not given the Law Covenant as given through Moses.
I think that you said it best to Ken Brown:
"Abraham did not have the mosaic law....but the example he gave to his children was to obey God in whatever God asked. He led by example to the point of willingly offering up his son isaac in sacrifice at Gods request."
And not only that but YAHWEH ELOHIM testifies of Abraham in this manner:
Genesis 18:19
19 For I know him, that he will command his children and his household after him, and they shall keep the way of YAHWEH, to do justice and judgment; that YAHWEH may bring upon Abraham that which he hath spoken of him.
Notice that the Children and Household of Abraham are under obligation to fulfill Abraham's instruction (charge) to them so that YAHWEH HIMSELF is not proven to be liar. If the Sabbath Commandment was given to Abraham, then the Sons of Abraham must of necessity observe that commandment so that the Word of YAHWEH would in the end prove to be true. A clear record of Sabbath observance would of necessity be visible amongst the Children right down to Moses and Sinai. No such observance is seen.
I therefore personally believe that Genesis 18:19 is written for the Seed of Abraham, that is, My Messiah Yahushua.
Prior to the giving of the Law of Moses, any son or descendant of Abraham could step forward and claim to be the Seed as long as they themselves like Abraham fully kept any Word of YAHWEH which had been personally given to them and/or to mankind prior to them. After the giving of the Law, this becomes a monumental task and obligation.
My Messiah Yahushua accepted this charge (see Matthew 5:17), and not only My Messiah but also all those who have graciously been delivered to HIM through HIS fulfillment of the Law. In other words, Pegg, all those who belong to My Messiah also now have the same obligation (charge) with respect to our Father, Abraham. All such through Messiah are of the Household of ELOHIM, and all such are also children of ELOHIM through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH (see Galatians 3:29)!
Now, Pegg, where does all this leave you? It leaves you without any hope in the world because you do not claim to be a part of Messiah Yahushua, that is, you do not claim to be a part of the Seed, and you therefore can't share in the Promises given to Abraham and to the Seed. Even so, do you yourself feel any obligation to Abraham at all? Have you yourself somehow accepted his command to his children?
Thanking you in advance should you be moved to reply, I am,
Sincerely, Latuwr