Men's Issues/Masculism DIR

[Debater Slayer]

To be honest, the staff's actions, threats, and overall attitude in this thread rings of sexism. I doubt we'll ever get an MRA subforum here. The more the staff posts, the more the attitude shines through. Rick summed up the forum's view on men's rights rather succintly.

Bear in mind that staff who post on the forums don't necessarily post from the viewpoint of being staff members. For instance, I personally don't care much about a "Men's Issues" forum or the like, but I did say in this thread that I support it if enough members want it:

To answer the OP, I don't really care one way or the other, but if enough members want a Masculist DIR, then I'm for it.

So, it's not really helpful or productive to make assumptions about the intents of anyone, especially when you take one post from one person and assume that the whole staff must be sexist because of it. "The staff" is pretty diverse, and you can't really tell what all of them think based on just one post.

 

[Badran]

Besides it's their forum and they can run it as they please.

Actually it's not. The forum has separate owners and we're all basically just doing this as volunteers.

We trust your judgement.

Thanks man.

 

[HiddenDjinn]

One problem we're having is that putting this new DIR under The Political World would be quite odd next to the other five categories there, which are all very broad and established political movements.

So, most of the questions by staff members here are meant to actually generate discussion and get a better understanding of what is desired, to see if we can fit it elsewhere, such as under The Social World, and whether or not that'd be aligned with the expectations of members calling for such a DIR.

It could easily go into Social World as a Green DIR, could easily go as a private forum that allows anyone to join for the discussion. There are a few equitable options.

 

[Curious George]

Well since the staff are showing up for interesting posts... While you all are here what would it take to get any of you to vote for a new Male Rights Activism directory? A desire to create one from members? A showing of a need to have a "protected directory?" More "male issues" in the threads on the existing boards? Nothing? Just a solid argument for one?

 

[Alceste]

Most feminists are gals.

:no:

Have you been reading the threads in the DIR? They're about half and half.

 

[Rakhel]

Here's the thing I see about all this. There has not been a big movement on Men's rights because men granted rights. It was assumed that they had them already. Even among men, you are a man and have all these rights. What are you fighting for?
Then came the feminist movement. And while it is good and does fight for the basic rights of the woman, it did take away some of the rights of the man. So a men's rights group really would not have sprung up if it had not been for the woman's movement.
What would a separate forum for men need protection from?
The "boo-hoos" and the sarcastic "why do white men need anything?" comments that have been floating through this thread.
The idea that some have been afraid of the backlash that would come from posting certain topics.
It would allow comfort from sarcasm and a place to post on topics that would otherwise devolve into a cry of "you hate women"
Now if you can't trust the men of this forum to post in a sensible manner, then why have them on the forum in the first place?

 

[Me Myself]

One problem we're having is that putting this new DIR under The Political World would be quite odd next to the other five categories there, which are all very broad and established political movements.

So, most of the questions by staff members here are meant to actually generate discussion and get a better understanding of what is desired, to see if we can fit it elsewhere, such as under The Social World, and whether or not that'd be aligned with the expectations of members calling for such a DIR.

I would presonally prefer social world, but I an fine with political one too.

 

[Me Myself]

Of my main interests is that it is green.

I would prefer MRA as a name, but I am not terribly concerned for the label.

 

[Alceste]

I would presonally prefer social world, but I an fine with political one too.

That makes sense to me. As Favlun noted, it isn't a well established political philosophy like the other sub-forums in the political world. I still think it should be the Man Cave or something similar, since I think "MRA only" would put people off contributing. I think that label has an even worse reputation than "feminism."

 

[Me Myself]

Meh, thats the reason I want it green

MRA works for me. Its direct and to the point.

 

[Secret Chief]

How about Man Creche?

 

[Reverend Rick]

The reason the Feminists got a DIR is because all their threads were derailed and they needed a sanctuary.

Men can feel free to start a thread on any issue they want. I don't believe they have been or will be harassed like some of our members in feminist threads where.

 

[Me Myself]

The reason the Feminists got a DIR is because all their threads were derailed and they needed a sanctuary.

Men can feel free to start a thread on any issue they want. I don't believe they have been or will be harassed like some of our members in feminist threads where.

Wow, The irony o.o

 

[HiddenDjinn]

Alceste,
The problem with calling it "Man Cave" or similar would give the wrong idea about the DIR. The existence is to discuss political issues regarding men. I've never seen politics discussed in any "man cave".

 

[Reverend Rick]

I never seen any men discuss very many man issues period. Beer me.

 

[Alceste]

The reason the Feminists got a DIR is because all their threads were derailed and they needed a sanctuary.

Men can feel free to start a thread on any issue they want. I don't believe they have been or will be harassed like some of our members in feminist threads where.

Whatever. Feminists are ugly. I like boobs. Now go make me a sammich!

 

[Reverend Rick]

Whatever. Feminists are ugly. I like boobs. Now go make me a sammich!

Don't forget I wanna see something nakid as well. :yes:

Do you really want me to make a sammich after just scratching my balls?

 

[Breathe]

We could always call it Men's Interests Group, if not Masculism.

But, seeing some posts in this thread has made me think we need one far more than we actually realize. Men in society have issues that are ignored, and when brought up, frequently dismissed or ridiculed.

I think the area should probably be purple accordingly. That or blue. But not green.

And, I do think one can be a feminist and masculist at the same time. The only thing that concerns me is the possible hijacking. But we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

 

[Me Myself]

We could always call it Men's Interests Group, if not Masculism.

But, seeing some posts in this thread has made me think we need one far more than we actually realize. Men in society have issues that are ignored, and when brought up, frequently dismissed or ridiculed.

I think the area should probably be purple accordingly. That or blue. But not green.

And, I do think one can be a feminist and masculist at the same time. The only thing that concerns me is the possible hijacking. But we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

What makes you think green would be a bad color?

 

[MysticSang'ha]

Don't forget the lap dances. I'm so there if lap dances are a part of a new forum.