EVIL SPIRITS: How does your faith/belief system regard evil spirits.

[BrokenHearted2]

What do you think evil spirits or demons are? What does your Religion believe? Are there any legends/folklore/stories from your culture or background that tell what these black things are that I experienced in the account below?

I know this sounds kooky to a lot of people but I'm really looking for some answers :help:

In 2003 I had an experience I can't explain and really terrified me. It was an encounter with a spiritual thing I did not understand. I felt it in a way that's hard to describe. It smelled as well. I'll never forget it. I might have sought out a counselor and tried to explain it away or forget about it, but but there were other's who saw it too, patients who told other nurses what they saw. My wife reminded me that I actually stayed on that job for about 6 weeks because it was hard for me to find another full time night nurse position in the area we lived in.

I have worked in both Hospitals and Nursing Homes for 24 years....

...Responding to a patient's cry for help I ran to that room. When I ran into the room the patient was yelling "Help! It's a man! It's a mean man!!" The patient was batting her hands at what appeared to me as a 7 foot tall black pillar of smoke. I could see the woman through it. Then I smelled it. I have never smelled anything worse in my life and I had alot of experience dressing Stage 5 Necrotic Decubitus Ulcers. The word "Wicked" came into my mind like a whisper. I closed my eyes as it looked like it was turning around to face me. I prayed trembling not knowing what to pray except 'God save us' until the smell went away. I was in tears and repented for being a sinner through what seemed like a full few minutes. I know by the smell that it came to stand right in front of me. I have never been so afraid in my life. I left that job three weeks later. Every time I went there I had this overwhelming fear of seeing that things face. I don't think it was a ghost. I don't know what it was.

I'm seeking stories, legends, religious traditions, and accounts of people who have seen the same kind of thing.

 

[Gjallarhorn]

Beings trapped in lives dominated by negative thoughts and deeds.

Not evil, just sad. Any "demons" we may perceive are simply fabrications of the mind.

 

[BrokenHearted2]

Beings trapped in lives dominated by negative thoughts and deeds.

Not evil, just sad. Any "demons" we may perceive are simply fabrications of the mind.

Yes but that's why this experience is unsettling. I could write it off as a fabrication of the mind or even a mental breakdown but two other people were there and one of them saw what I saw. The other one saw "a mean man", but I was standing in the doorway and no one could have physically left the room. The woman who saw the "man" said he just disappeared.

"Beings trapped in lives dominated by negative thoughts and deeds." is something interesting to consider.

Well what ever it was it was "wicked"...

Thanks for your input Gjallarhorn.

 

[BrokenHearted2]

Has anyone else had a similar experience?

 

[Draka]

Well, not to try to sound entirely too fruit loopy, I've had my share of encounters with various types of spirits. When my kids have actually asked me about ghosts because they were afraid one night and thought they saw something in some shadows, I'm not the type of parent who says "there's no such thing", I'm the one who turns around and asks my kid what they think a ghost is. My son has popped up with the answer "someone who has died". Then I've asked, "well, are there more good people or bad people?", to which he responded "good people". Then I asked, "so are there more good ghosts or bad ghosts?" He said "Good." He quickly reasoned out that if there was a ghost around it was most likely a good ghost and nothing to worry about at all and everything was just fine.

That story said, spirits vary as much as the people around us. Some may be troubled, hurt, not ready to let go or feeling trapped and not understanding, perhaps acting out. Maybe they are just outright mean. This does not define a "demon" though. This defines a spirit trapped in the ethereal plane/realm that, for lack of a better way to put it, "has issues". They may have had issues in life, and still have them in this current existence as well. It may well be why they can't ascend to a higher plane. Intercessory methods sometimes have success in helping such a spirit, but it really depends on just how strong the spirit is and how long they've been entrenched.

Again, though, I may sound completely fruit loopy to you. But, you did ask for opinions/views, gave what I got.

 

[BrokenHearted2]

Thank you for sharing Draka. I've had other ghost experiences in healthcare and I feel most of them are positive. No you don't sound fruit loopy to me. I've had to develop a sensitivity to patients who report these kinds of experiences as well other staff. The unsettling thing about this whole thing is that it raises questions about death, limbo, and the afterlife that my traditionally held beliefs have a hard time explaining. To complicate matters some of my encounters have been shared experiences with other witnesses. I'm hesitant to talk about these things at work because these experiences are not universal and reporting some things make you sound like a goof ball.

The thing I experienced did not seem human and radiated evil.

I worried about posting this as a new RF member. But I sincerely want to know what the thing is I saw.

 

[Draka]

Thank you for sharing Draka. I've had other ghost experiences in healthcare and I feel most of them are positive. No you don't sound fruit loopy to me. I've had to develop a sensitivity to patients who report these kinds of experiences as well other staff. The unsettling thing about this whole thing is that it raises questions about death, limbo, and the afterlife that my traditionally held beliefs have a hard time explaining. To complicate matters some of my encounters have been shared experiences with other witnesses. I'm hesitant to talk about these things at work because these experiences are not universal and reporting some things make you sound like a goof ball.

The thing I experienced did not seem human and radiated evil.

I worried about posting this as a new RF member. But I sincerely want to know what the thing is I saw.

Is energy human? Do you really think your spirit itself is human? Human is a biological form. Sure, is it perhaps possible for a spirit to assume an image they use to carry in life by some measure? Why not? But does it make sense to limit it to that image?

Our bodies and spirits work in tandem in life. Our bodies a vessel of sorts for our spirits. Without said vessel there is nothing to reign in or contain the free flow of the energy of the spirit itself. If the flow of the spirit is malevolent, then that would be what is felt around it. Just like how a person can literally give you "the creeps" just being around you? It's almost like they exude a certain energy right? Now imagine if there was no body, no container to hold back that energy that gave you those "creeps"? See what I mean? You'd practically want to claw out of the room.

 

[BrokenHearted2]

Is energy human? Do you really think your spirit itself is human? Human is a biological form. Sure, is it perhaps possible for a spirit to assume an image they use to carry in life by some measure? Why not? But does it make sense to limit it to that image?

Our bodies and spirits work in tandem in life. Our bodies a vessel of sorts for our spirits. Without said vessel there is nothing to reign in or contain the free flow of the energy of the spirit itself. If the flow of the spirit is malevolent, then that would be what is felt around it. Just like how a person can literally give you "the creeps" just being around you? It's almost like they exude a certain energy right? Now imagine if there was no body, no container to hold back that energy that gave you those "creeps"? See what I mean? You'd practically want to claw out of the room.

I never thought of that Draka....The "Creeps" thing makes sense. I guess I was thinking of the legends surrounding what John testified to seeing in his Revelation vision of Heaven. There were spirits there that he could identify as human, but there were other things, creatures he'd never seen serving God as well....

I guess I can't assume anything and your statement makes sense. Whatever it was I'm grateful that heartfelt crying out to God seemed to make it go away.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

I saw lots of things that I can regard as ghost encounters when I was younger, but I don't really believe in ghosts, I simply have no explanations for them yet.

 

[BrokenHearted2]

I saw lots of things that I can regard as ghost encounters when I was younger, but I don't really believe in ghosts, I simply have no explanations for them yet.

I appreciate that. Some times the smartest place to be in life is to not know "yet" and still be looking for explanations...

 

[Sha'irullah]

Demons and evil spirits are illusions of the mind or lies by the charlatans. I personally find it odd that spirits like aliens are so often spoken of but one cannot find video evidence of them.

The videos that arise are blurry and unclear and are often just fake claims. No substantial evidence exist to provide any evidence of spirits or demons

 

[The Sum of Awe]

I appreciate that. Some times the smartest place to be in life is to not know "yet" and still be looking for explanations...

I usually prefer things to be unknown if they don't have to be, it makes certain aspects of life a lot more interesting.

 

[AlisonRose222]

The New Message from God acknowledges that :
-the Forces of Dissonance are in the world and oppose the unity of life.
-They seek to separate what has joined.
-You must accept evil as a condition of physical life, something to contend with
-There is not just Earth, heaven and hell. We live in a vast universe with many other life forms. Evil originates from beyond this world.
-You must learn not to become emotionally engaged with these forces (i.e. don't become fascinated with the encounters, don't give too much of your energy to them)
-Do not try to conceptualize evil as one being (i.e. "devil", "satan")
-Knowledge within you is stronger than any force of dissonance
-Power is a matter of concentration of the mind. If a being who is committed to evil is also very focused, and is up against a weak mind, then this being is stronger in the mental environment and can therefore dominate
-"Do not combat evil because it will seduce you as you do so"- Relationships and Higher Purpose, Marshall Vian Summers
-With introspection and study as a Student of Knowledge, you will begin to see how the forces within you oppose each other. You can see how your views about religion or politics, ideas about relationships, etc are influenced by evil
-Evil is not permanent, as God is, but it is constantly being regenerated

 

[BrokenHearted2]

The New Message from God acknowledges that :
-the Forces of Dissonance are in the world and oppose the unity of life.
-They seek to separate what has joined.
-You must accept evil as a condition of physical life, something to contend with
-There is not just Earth, heaven and hell. We live in a vast universe with many other life forms. Evil originates from beyond this world.
-You must learn not to become emotionally engaged with these forces (i.e. don't become fascinated with the encounters, don't give too much of your energy to them)
-Do not try to conceptualize evil as one being (i.e. "devil", "satan")
-Knowledge within you is stronger than any force of dissonance
-Power is a matter of concentration of the mind. If a being who is committed to evil is also very focused, and is up against a weak mind, then this being is stronger in the mental environment and can therefore dominate
-"Do not combat evil because it will seduce you as you do so"- Relationships and Higher Purpose, Marshall Vian Summers
-With introspection and study as a Student of Knowledge, you will begin to see how the forces within you oppose each other. You can see how your views about religion or politics, ideas about relationships, etc are influenced by evil
-Evil is not permanent, as God is, but it is constantly being regenerated

-You must learn not to become emotionally engaged with these forces (i.e. don't become fascinated with the encounters, don't give too much of your energy to them)<<< This is really good advice and strikes a chord in my heart. I really appreciate your input Alison, the whole comment is wise. Thank you for commenting.:angel2:

 

[RJ50]

Throughout my life I have experienced what many would class as 'supernatural', like apparitions and other really weird stuff. I don't think seeing is necessarily believing, especially where something of that nature is concerned. I am of the opinion there is a natural explanation for everything. The mind can perform incredible feats, which can convince people they are experiencing something 'otherworldly' when in actual fact it is a product of their psyche.

 

[BrokenHearted2]

Throughout my life I have experienced what many would class as 'supernatural', like apparitions and other really weird stuff. I don't think seeing is necessarily believing, especially where something of that nature is concerned. I am of the opinion there is a natural explanation for everything. The mind can perform incredible feats, which can convince people they are experiencing something 'otherworldly' when in actual fact it is a product of their psyche.

Thanks for your comment RJ50. Having had experience in mental health nursing, I agree that the mind can produce such experiences. However my problem is I had two other witnesses present. This made the experience even more terrifying if that makes sense.

 

[BrokenHearted2]

Demons and evil spirits are illusions of the mind or lies by the charlatans. I personally find it odd that spirits like aliens are so often spoken of but one cannot find video evidence of them.

The videos that arise are blurry and unclear and are often just fake claims. No substantial evidence exist to provide any evidence of spirits or demons

I don't know if you are implying anything about me personally with your first sentence. :sarcastic Had it not been a shared experience with two others then I may have written it off as an illusion/delusion a long ago. One woman wouldn't quit talking about it which made it very uncomfortable for me as a nurse...I'm simply looking for answers to something I encountered. I am interested in what other religions and beliefs have to say about such things.

If it is some trick of the mind I would be relieved to find that out and how it happens.

Thanks for your input Sterling.

 

[RJ50]

Thanks for your comment RJ50. Having had experience in mental health nursing, I agree that the mind can produce such experiences. However my problem is I had two other witnesses present. This made the experience even more terrifying if that makes sense.

Other people claim to have shared my experiences, but that hasn't changed my opinion!

 

[Draka]

Throughout my life I have experienced what many would class as 'supernatural', like apparitions and other really weird stuff. I don't think seeing is necessarily believing, especially where something of that nature is concerned. I am of the opinion there is a natural explanation for everything. The mind can perform incredible feats, which can convince people they are experiencing something 'otherworldly' when in actual fact it is a product of their psyche.

Other people claim to have shared my experiences, but that hasn't changed my opinion!

I have to admit, mindsets like this make me wonder, what are you afraid of?

If you see what appears to be a duck, it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, and others around you proclaim to see the very same duck...why must you deny the existence of the duck? What is it about even the possibility of the duck that frightens you so that you cannot even bring yourself to acknowledge it exists? Or even possibly exists?

 

[BrokenHearted2]

I have to admit, mindsets like this make me wonder, what are you afraid of?

If you see what appears to be a duck, it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, and others around you proclaim to see the very same duck...why must you deny the existence of the duck? What is it about even the possibility of the duck that frightens you so that you cannot even bring yourself to acknowledge it exists? Or even possibly exists?

:cover: Seeing isn't always believing because taking the step to believe such things would be toppling our entrenched personal beliefs. The experience has shaken mine. Denial is much more commonplace. I was very tempted to tell my coworkers that the talkative old lady was delusional, but that would make me a false witness against her. Instead I just told people "I don't want to talk about it". :sorry1: